mccAug 5, 2023

So. Homebrew is illegal now too, then?

EDIT: People seem to be misunderstanding this screenshot. This is me running a program installed by Brew and it being blocked by macOS Gatekeeper. You can see me executing it from the command line and you can see in the error message that Homebrew downloaded it. Although brew is in general working for me, this particular formula's app got blocked. After making the post I resolved the problem and do not need help.

Show threadmccAug 5, 2023
I am never going to stop being angry at the people who told me, when I said around 2010 that Gatekeeper was the end of the Macintosh and possibly the end of all computers, that there was nothing to worry about because they'd never remove that third "run any software" option from the control panel
Show threadGlyph
@mcc it’s only gone from the user-facing UI. You can right-click on the app, and go to “open”, and get a different interstitial speedbump that lets you proceed. You can also just dequarantine the binaries in the terminal, if you just want to allow it to execute with no restrictions.
Aug 5, 2023 at 4:16amToot!
Show threadmccAug 5, 2023
@glyph I know, and I don't give a shit. Also, there is no user-facing UI. It's refusing to let me run a perl script from the command line
Show threadmccAug 5, 2023
@glyph I did get it working eventually but I still wish I did not own a Macintosh
Show threadGlyphAug 5, 2023
@mcc I am sorry that it’s been inflicted upon you. If you think gatekeeper isn’t granting you any meaningful security and you just want to blow it away entirely, I think this still works: https://disable-gatekeeper.github.io
Disable Gatekeeper on macOS Catalina (10.15)

Permanently disable or bypass Gatekeeper by following the instructions on this website.

Show threadGlyphAug 5, 2023
@mcc in that case the problem is that cask is installing a perl script for some reason, which seems weird. If it were in a formula you wouldn’t hit this restriction.
Show threadmccAug 5, 2023
@glyph Sometimes, software is written in Perl
Show threadGlyphAug 5, 2023
@mcc the problem isn’t perl, it’s that Cask is the part of Brew which is supposed to install app-shaped things rather than script-shaped things. You can have apps in perl if you want, as long as you follow the app rules. It looks like this is installing a perl script where they bungled the packaging and should have made it like other scripts
Show threadindrora, hacker at smallAug 5, 2023

@glyph @mcc it likely has Mark of The Web (aka com.apple.quarantine) as an xattr.

Part of the big issue is that Apple has just enough security in the wrong places that tools like Brew can do correct things, but then find out they did the Wrong Correct Thing.

Show threadGaelan SteeleAug 5, 2023

@mcc @glyph before the system preferences redesign, there was a “allow” option at the bottom of the security page (the one with the option you showed); the process was try to run the thing, go to system preferences to click allow, try to run it again

I *think* that option still exists but don’t quote me

yes this is absolutely hideous; I am not defending it

Show threadGaelan SteeleAug 5, 2023
@mcc @glyph ah saw downthread you fixed it, my bad