CookieJarObserverQuestion, could we consider the defederation of rammy.site?
RunAwayFrogA general purpose instance with no claimed “safe space” offering should only be burdened with instance-level defederation talk when another instance is behaving badly at a technical level, or when its admins are actively involved in, or not actively trying to prevent, spam, brigading, repeat copyright infringement, and stuff like that.
Bad thoughts expressed in text form by individual users shouldn’t be ground for such talk, and to create a foray over such an inactive instance is quite self-indulging.
If anything, maybe a couple of previous defederation decisions were taken in haste, and should be reconsidered!
If you’re looking for a “safe” instance, there are a couple that should suit you. One of them was already recommended to you.
Um this instance is hosted in Canada… There are legal requirements and named instance falls likely within that i just suggested we defederate them before they make problems, we did defederate 3 instances, Burggit because they allow content illigal to distribute in Canada, Exploding heads, because they are Nazis and Lemmygrad because they are brigading commies and on the same level as Exploding heads.
So your argument is pretty much invalidated by the instance itself and by laws. I don’t want a safe space at all, i hate safe spaces, but a instance spreading just hate misinformation and similar stuff doesn’t need to be federated. If you want to have their content, go and make a account there.
Oh and its the instance itself, not just individual users.
So all in all i could ask you if you are retarded, but i already have that argument further down in the comments.
So instead i just ask if you are a lil stoopid and if you need your diapers changed?
CorkyskogI am curious if the instance posts the specific legal requirements. It would be useful for users, so they could look out to protect the instance/admin.
Hm, idk i just know its hosted in Canada and they have laws against spreading covid misinformation and hate
estysomething something, if 9 people are fine sitting at a table with a Nazi, you have 10 nazis
cut the trash out before it stinks up the whole network
this isn’t Reddit we don’t need bad faith both sides bs
if 9 people are fine sitting at a table with a Nazi, you have 10 nazis
Good thing there is no table involved.
both sides
Actually, if you read carefully, you will find that my arguments are against both sides, where the sides are the Stasi and McCarthyists.
That is if my argument was ideological. But it wasn’t. It was a technical and practical answer where I consider(ed) whatever ideologies supposedly involved irrelevant.
Monitoring instances and gouging their supposed collective thought, and making decisions based on that in an attempt to appease the masses, will make the job of general purpose instance admins unattainable.
It would be a very effective way for the likes of Reddit to fuck with the Fediverse, actually.
Weekly instance defederation talk loaded with emotional/psychological manipulation, moral grandstanding, and why not, some bullying.
“table with a Nazi” analogies. Linking the Paradox of tolerance wikipedia page for the 345636556th time. The lot.
This may work with instances that like their Stasi or McCarthyist wanna be agents (a.k.a. users) keeping their eyes out for baddies.
For general purpose instances, this will be a great way to make them quit. A desirable outcome for some. I’m not one of them. So, I, and hopefully others, am willing to take the hit and speak out, and state things that some admins may want to state, but don’t feel comfortable doing so publicly.
you can’t always answer a human problem with a technological solution
Great original retort there. Not part of “the lot” I had in mind in my previous comment at all.
you can put your fingers in your ears and scream la la la, that doesn’t make it wrong
I’m thinking you just need to join your Nazi friends; over there.