Someone trying to tempt me back to Twitter with this screenshot, saying “come on, won’t it be fun to respond to this?” Their idea of fun may differ from mine.

Lots of people have made fun of my mental illness and openness about it, most often on Twitter. But I’m okay. So far I haven’t looked at one of them and said “wow they seem really happy and successful, I wish I had their life.”

@Popehat
Thank you for your leadership and openness about this.
This, too, inspires my appreciation of your perspective.
@Popehat This screenshot is a great reason to not look at Twitter. Who wants to hang out with all those assholes.
@Popehat they just wish you were as miserable as them.

@technoid_ @Popehat

Yes. Misery enjoys causing pain.

@Popehat

Oh yes, that does look like fun the same way slamming your foot on the corner of a bedframe is fun.

I appreciate your openness on the subject and it helps other folks - keep on keeping on.

@Popehat

Wow, mocking someone for health issues. That's really repugnant.

@Popehat Solidarity. ✊🏼

Went through something similar, came here and avoided the need to dunk on someone/thing.

@Popehat I enjoy your posts here.
@Popehat Because the United States and State of California listen to anything he says and don't think mental issues have any bearing.

@Popehat Someone being open about their mental illness makes me much more likely to listen to what they have to say.

Thank you, Ken!

@Popehat Why some people enjoy getting in an argument, for no reason, is a mystery to me. I can understand conflict when there is disagreement, but for "fun"? I guess I don't get it.

@Popehat
ITS A TRAP

I may never go back. Idk yet. I’m happy to run across you again.

@Popehat Whenever I see people comment like that it reminds me of the results of my inbreeding program in Crusader Kings.

@Popehat
That screenshot makes me want to block someone on a platform I'm not using any more.

Thanks for helping to normalize mental illness.

@Popehat I looked, the Algorithm (my algorithm) had already fingered them as a fascist and they were already blocked. So instead I blocked all their followers.

My two main uses for Twitter are continuing to block fascists and handing Mastodon invites to people I know who are still active there.

@Popehat One of the (several) problems with this attitude is the way it's textbook ad hominem. "Argument X isn't worth hearing because its author has unrelated characteristic Y."

The very notion of hearing someone out, of evaluating arguments on their own merits, of following a chain of reasoning to draw a conclusion, is summarily, implicitly dismissed.

Instead we have an ethos informed by the too-serious fans of daytime soap operas, or the earnest watchers of pro wrestling. It's all just personality and projection.

@Popehat when i came out with my mental illness, it was immediately used to insult me. I always remind myself that people are going to use anything they can to hurt you. The insulting folks were probably hurt by someone in the same way and forever altered.

I appreciate your take on things.

@Popehat
Buncha jerks over there.

Happy to be seeing you here. Don't go anywhere that makes life shittier.

@Popehat I don’t have a lot riding on your thoughts on these matters but boy I do appreciate hearing them.

@Popehat

I remember EsoteriCD. That name alone being in there should be enough for anyone to nope the hell away.

@Popehat Excellent way to sort through — as my mother always told me as a child, “consider the source.”
@Popehat wallow in the mud, all the biggest pigs are doing it. 🐷
@Popehat twitter is a hateful place.
@Popehat I tend more towards "watching or responding to that isn't going to improve my life in any way." The same can be extended to include the lives of people you care about.
@Popehat Thanks for leading the way over here. I just converted myself. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get more people to leave that cesspool.

@Popehat When in doubt I look to Forrest Gump for inspiration: “Stupid is as stupid does”

These are people who think it makes sense to put the completely unhinged “most stable genius” back in office for another 4 years. Pretty sure that delusional thinking will be classified in hindsight as “serious mental issues”.

@Popehat I think calling it X might hasten it’s demise by disconnecting it from all the goodwill twitter once had and emphasizing it’s “newness”. It also just sounds dumb.
@Eric
@Popehat I'm still trying to figure out whether renaming it "the ex-social media network" was somehow _intended_ to hasten its demise.
@Popehat I'm not saying this like my solution is your solution but I seriously consider blocking people like that. They stir shit up so you get angry and frustrated about it and then have to deal with it for their entertainment. It's a lousy way to be. You don't have to let everyone know every time someone is crappy towards them, especially when they have a large account and it happens constantly.
@AbandonedAmerica I don’t really need to block them because so far I haven’t met a single one on Mastodon or Bluesky.

@Popehat @AbandonedAmerica Hey I have nothing to add to the conversation other than you two are in my short list of people who make toots I enjoy. Keep tooting.

(Also I love that Serious Trouble Podcast so much even as a total legal layperson.)

@Popehat @AbandonedAmerica Ken I follow you on both and I appreciate your insights and hate some of the trolls you get and how disgusting they are.

Thanks for being out there for us.

@Popehat I'm really glad to hear that. I'm pretty open about the chronic and severe depression/anxiety issues I've struggled with my whole life and someone trying to bait me into an argument over them would really piss me off. Thankfully I haven't had any people like that in the Fediverse either. I'm not saying this place is perfect but oh my God the number of shitlords is so, so much less than it is on Twitter.
@AbandonedAmerica @Popehat Assholes like that get off on getting a response. Blocking is the correct action.
@AbandonedAmerica @Popehat there were people like that on Facebook too. Got their kicks by baiting you into an argument then waiting for a response that they could report to community standards to get your account suspended. It happened to me enough times that I just said screw it. What good is an ap that I can’t even use for a 30 day stretch. Around the time of that January 6th stupidity, I got off of a 30 day suspension only to get a new one 2 days later. I closed out my account then.
@AbandonedAmerica @Popehat smart to rise above the cesspool. It isn't healthy for you and for people who revel in crap, they will never admit wrong even though you present dozens of facts.
@Popehat @AbandonedAmerica without algorithmic amplification, the stupid here has a hard time getting traction.
Yeah, that retards the commercial impact brands, public figures and news outlets crave … but, it also makes the hate trolling less … impactful.
@AbandonedAmerica @Eddiethebulldog @Popehat I wondered why Masto seems “calmer” . . . Hopefully the A-Holes will never get their greedy fingers into it.
@Popehat @Eddiethebulldog @AbandonedAmerica I have a friend who remains on the other site. He gets gratification from trying to rile up those with differing perspectives. Not my thing, man.
-Abide
@AbandonedAmerica @Eddiethebulldog @Popehat someone said “I don’t like Mastodon, it’s like a health food shop” and I think that a lot.

@Popehat

The people who think this sort of stuff is "fun" to respond to are just as miserable as the instigators, even if they don't realize it.

@Popehat Glad you're here, bud. Keep on keepin' on

@Popehat Even setting "using mental health issues as a derogatory term" aside, I learned a very valuable lesson long ago:

There are a limited number of people whose negative opinion of you counts.

Depending on your circumstances, this might include close family, friends, your spouse, even co-workers. You know who is never included in the group of people whose opinion counts? Random people on social media sites.

Note, this applies to negative opinions. Compliments can be accepted from anyone.

@Popehat I'm sorry to hear about your depression. My own encounter with it was hellish, but fortunately brief. I can't imagine what you went through.

Twitter really does instill into people —even good people — a trolling mentality, where all that matters is scoring points against the enemy. The enemy they're scoring points against has exactly the same mindset. Both sides may think they're on the side of right, but both are involved in a vile game.

They know not what they do.

@Popehat I will say it is extremely enjoyable to see them flail around when they realize that you are not taking their bait or playing their game.
@Popehat
Good call. There are some things in this world that aren't worth your time or attention. X is well on its way to devolving into nothing more than a troll echo chamber.
@Popehat Don't look back at that place. Move forward and forget about them. Losers always want more company. You don't need them.
@Popehat
I appreciate your posts on legal issues, and also your forthcoming nature on mental health issues. I struggle myself, and it helps knowing that I am not the only one.
@Popehat Agreed, sounds grim AF. I mostly jump over to lurk and read things I've heard about. < 15 mins/week, I'd guess.
@Popehat damn straight. Fuck those people.

@Popehat I’ve always tried to balance my serious mental issues with my amusing mental issues. 😄 Had a lifetime trying.

Do your thing, Ken. You do good work.

@Popehat My dad would say, “tell them to take a flying leap into a rolling doughnut.” I just say screw them!
@Popehat Be mean to people with mental ilness is not fun some people dont understand this

@Popehat I abandoned twitter within seconds of seeing that dipshit show up with the sink. It couldnt have been clearer that taking vengeance and unleashing every shitty impulse was going to be the game going forward. I didn’t need help making that call, but I can honestly say that it was reassuring to see when you made the same call.

Mental heath is worth defending, and Musk’s and his damned websites’s patent and florid form of mental illness isn’t.