Alexander ClarksonYIMBYism and the attack on "woke capitalism" as a product of different branches of the Right that are now culturally estranged from one another desperately seeking the "this one big thing fixes everything" narrative that once brought them together in euroscepticism
The way the simplistic dogmatism of YIMBY economic liberals or anti-woke national conservatives leads to gradual radicalisation of rhetoric and outlook as their "one big thing" fails to solve anywhere near as much as they hoped is to the 2020s what Brexitism was to the 2010s
Just put the Singapore on Thames rhetoric early 2010s euroscepticism of the Britannia Unchained era Hannans and Raabs alongside a lot of the YIMBY rhetoric in the 2020s
Jesse@APHClarkson Thank you for saying this. Though, at least from where I'm situated in the US progressive/PMC sphere, the "anti-woke" pretext already seems to be running out of steam. YIMBYism feels like the bigger success story, in the same way that Tony Blair was Margaret Thatcher's greatest achievement. https://mastodon.social/@misc/110752769211584197
Tower Street Geek@APHClarkson I am generally sympathetic to YIMBYism, though. It probably isn't sufficient but it is almost certainly necessary.
Alon@APHClarkson Wait, YIMBY is a product of the right? What? In Germany the most improtant YIMBY politician is Kevin Kühnert, former head of JuSos; in the US, it's Scott Wiener, who for his work on LGBTQ rights is loathed by the alt-right.
Diego@Alon @APHClarkson In Belgium too PS politicians are quite YIMBY, especially the younger ones.
@DiegoBeghin @APHClarkson Yeah, and in the UK, Labour is running on building more housing. The center-right thinktanks in Britain are atypically YIMBY, but that's about it.
@Alon @DiegoBeghin YIMBYism in the Anglosphere has in the last 18 months become monomaniacally focused on deregulation as it became adopted by Centre Right and economic liberal policy entrepreneurs alienated by Tories and GOP in their current form. So that perspective that also focuses on state investment and planning incl. social housing you still get in its EU form has been pushed aside
@Alon @DiegoBeghin the YIMBY stuff didn't raise my hackles until it got seized on in the Anglosphere by a lot of policy actors who view deregulation as the only lever to pull, and that then started to also get entangled in increasingly authoritarian language and mindsets when it comes to how to get local communities onside. The almost dehumanising language used towards a very vague and broad "NIMBY" concept sounds increasingly like 1920s Bolsheviks blaming kulaks for all ills.
@APHClarkson @DiegoBeghin ...no. The actual YIMBY praxis - as in California laws and the New Zealand law - has been to delocalize land use regulations (and in California, it includes making it easier to build social housing). Don't think "Bolsheviks," think "actual practice in South Korea and Japan" and "similar to actual practice in Ile-de-France and Nordic capitals."
It's not even right to say "Anglosphere" - the US/UK are NIMBY, the other three build a lot of housing: https://pedestrianobservations.com/2023/03/21/no-the-anglosphere-isnt-especially-nimby/
Kyle@Alon @DiegoBeghin @APHClarkson I see much more of the deregulatory side of YIMBYism pulling in libertarians and moderate business conservatives who can then be opened up to other more left-coded elements of urbanism and walkability than I do urbanism recruiting left of center folks and transforming them into market fundamentalists.
@Kyleric @DiegoBeghin @APHClarkson In the United States, the people likeliest to be against having a state are NIMBYs, because of the peculiarity of how American educational segregation rests on local control. Here it's pretty neutral (again, Jusos).