Florian
Free Software FoundationRead why "Web Environment Integrity" is terrible, and why we must vocally oppose it now. Google's latest maneuver, if we don't act to stop it, threatens our freedom to explore the Internet with browsers of our choice: https://u.fsf.org/40a #EndDRM #Enshittification #Google #WebStandards
jtb@fsf Why can't a browser pretend that it has not been tampered with? #google #wei #webenvironmentintegrity
Ian Kelling> Why can't a browser pretend that it has not been tampered with?
As https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity explainer.md says,
the browser will send a cryptographic signature of a key embedded in a chip that a pretending browser does not have access to because the chip only exists and works on devices with proprietary OS that prevents it from happening. Like most DRM, someone will likely find a way around it, but it will be illegal under DMCA and it won't be easy to use so most people won't.
@iank If the OS is Windows and the browser is Chromium the browser can be modified and recompiled but Windows would then not allow it to run?
@iank I think that this would also be a voilation of the GPL of Chromium. #WEI also stands for Windows Ecosystem Integrity. A coincidence? Not likely. #conspiracy #google #microsoft
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@jeremystartm @fsf Netflix requires DRM to use its website and it hasn't made the internet fall apart, I am sure Google could do the same if it wanted. Some sites detect ad blockers and ask me to turn them off.
@jtb @fsf No, the thing is that Netflix is using the "normal DRM" provided by most browsers. The proposal however states that a attestator installed in your browser should "verify the browser's integrity". The issue is: If no attestator is available for your browser, you can't visit that website. They're effectively trying to get you to using Chrome because you can't visit that website and give up your adblocker because your browser would fail the integrity check. This would end the open web.
@jeremystartm @fsf I was with you up to the last sentence. But surely an alternative is to simply not visit the website, which no doubt many do with Netflix. Generally, websites want to attract people not drive them away, which is why even some of those which ask me to remove the adblocker still work if I don't.
@jtb @fsf Many websites would implement this because many websites use Google Ads and would be forced to use this DRM. And because so many websites would have this DRM, you can't just "use an alternative". And yes, some websites will remove Google Ads in favour of other ad services but most would probably still use GAds because they either don't care or don't know about this going on.
Rev. Bussy Body of The Church of America MLM and Shooting Club@fsf saw someone boost this just now and got scared it was coming back until i saw the timestamp on this post
(it's not coming back right? ..........right?)
(it's not coming back right? ..........right?)
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