Anne Collier
Mike Masnick ✅I am sorry to say that I have had to call out Lizzo. I wish this were not the case, but she's now supporting dangerous legislation. https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/19/yo-lizzo-youve-been-lied-to-kosa-will-harm-kids/
Parkscope Joe :RCID:@mmasnick et tu, Lizzo?
TC Won't Give In To Lies@mmasnick
Sorry, but I've got to disagree.
Yes, KOSA creates a risk of abuse by bad faith authorities. I'd rather the law be more clear about when this power can be used.
But there are very real dangers now. We need new powers - and social media companies need responsibility.
Better this imperfect bill, and refine it later, than no progress (and no social media responsibilities) at all.
@TCatInReality i strongly disagree. I see almost nothing good in KOSA and plenty of bad stuff. And these laws don't tend to get "refined later." We just live with the problems.
@mmasnick
Understood and we'll just disagree.
I think it's an acceptable compromise to finally create some responsibility and liability for social media companies.
@TCatInReality the problem is that it doesn't though. the responsibility comes from users/partners/advertisers refusing to do business with bad actors to hold them to account.
KOSA just creates a tool for censorship, and (even worse) for companies to IGNORE problems, because the First Amendment would still require actual knowledge. So it creates incentives for companies to take LESS RESPONSIBILITY.
Lizard@TCatInReality @mmasnick DeSantis, and many like him, believe any information on sexuality besides missionary position solely for the purpose of producing white babies is a "danger to children", and given they've stacked courts and state legislatures, they will either win easily or present such a long and expensive fight that most web sites will simply self-censor rather than risk it.
This is not a risk or a hypothetical. It is what WILL happen.
Any time you wish to grant "new powers", don't ask "What good could we do with this?" Ask "What harm could THEY do with this?".
Paul Shread@LizardSF @mmasnick
I completely agree
But we know social media are actively harming society too. So, how do we balance the risks?
You don't have to agree, but I think it is past time the social media companies carry responsibilities and liabilities. Given the composition of Congress, the KOSA bill is about as good a compromise as we can get (IMHO)
🌲🧿 "Max"t💽d🏵️n 🔎🍄@mmasnick Celebrities are often on the wrong side of many issues.
hammancheez@mmasnick but its for KIDS SAFETY
you wouldn't be against KIDS SAFETY would you?
are you some kind of ANTI KID SAFETY pedo?!
also anything proposed by Marsha fuckin Blackburn can die in a fire on general principle
Naes Nalnoc (m.s.)@mmasnick anything Sen. Marsha Blackburn touches should be burned with fire. I don’t even need to read the bill.
JamieGC 🏴 🏳️🌈 🖖@mmasnick more than likely this is being pushed by her staff and she hasn't been informed what it could do, and she definitely needs to be told.
Sean@mmasnick who's profiting from barring speech?
I assume Dove is just the patsy face of the campaign and a 'useful idiot' for whomever is financially benefiting from this, but I don't know who would be that person/business/industry.
I assume Dove is just the patsy face of the campaign and a 'useful idiot' for whomever is financially benefiting from this, but I don't know who would be that person/business/industry.
Defiance!@mmasnick You'll never get an admission of bad judgement out of Seth Meyers. He and his ex-cop wife are unapologetic sex worker abolitionists.
Zhi Zhu 🕸️"Those who don’t understand the nuances and the ins-and-outs of specific legal proposals, and how they intersect with our legal system might not understand just how dangerous KOSA is. That’s why it’s presented in such a misleading way. It’s just disappointing that Dove got suckered into this, and, in turn, brought Lizzo in to help.
...by endorsing KOSA she’s now saying “Government controls social media now, and I don’t.”"
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/19/yo-lizzo-youve-been-lied-to-kosa-will-harm-kids/
Like Utah’s awful just-signed legislation (https://www.netfamilynews.org/why-i-struggle-mightily-with-the-new-utah-law), #KOSA’s “‘parental tools’ mandate seems to not even comprehend that not every child has a relationship (or a good, loving relationship) with their parents, meaning it’s wide open to abuse by parents,” writes @mmasnick - we are SO not on a good trajectory in the US (I know, stating the obvious)
Why I struggle mightily with the new Utah law - NetFamilyNews.org
Apologies. I am late in writing about this just-passed social media legislation in the state where I live, Utah (have to say my home state is Massachusetts). I’m late partly because I’ve been in denial. I can’t believe that laws so disrespectful of teens’ rights of privacy and participation could go on the books. And […]
Blake Leonard@annecollier @mmasnick That phrase explains it perfectly.
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen@mmasnick Lizzo a month after the bill passes: «why are my videos unavailable?» «Oh, someone thought they were harmful to children.»