Mark DarbyshireJul 26, 2023
Ika Makimaki

Labour has voted down the GreensNZ member's bill to end mining on conservation land & keep coal in the ground.

In a climate emergency.

The only thing you can count on the Labour Party is being utterly disappointing.

This was just another campaign promise they broke.

Funny how when they promise no CGT or No Wealth Tax, they manage to keep those.

Labour are just Tories with another name.

#NZPol

Jul 26, 2023 at 7:48amWeb
Show threadIka MakimakiJul 26, 2023

I can't express how angry this makes me feel.

It shows where their priorities lie, and it is not in a livable planet.

Right now I despise them more than ACT, because at least ACT are upfront about not giving a shit. They don't pretend to be your friend and stab you later.

With Labour it is betrayal after betrayal.

Show threadJeremyJupiterJones Jul 26, 2023
@pezmico People need to get over the idea that Labour are a left wing party. Labour is a centrist party with some left aligned social policy, meanwhile, the Nats have chased ACT into the far right dystopian dead lands. If you want left wing, progressive and critical climate and social action by the next NZ Government Party Vote NZ Greens or TPM. #NZPol
Show threadIka MakimakiJul 26, 2023

@jeremy_pm I know. And I have never and will never give them a single vote.

But this was something they campaigned on (under Ardern, granted).

And it should be the bare minimum; they keep their word to the rich.
It's not banning ALL mining.
It's just protecting already designated Conservation land.
But not even that is possible with these spineless liars.

#NZPol

Show threadJeremyJupiterJones Jul 26, 2023
@pezmico The reality is Labour are fighting a battle in the center for the swing center left/right voters. I accept that Labour have to do what they have to do be in a position to form a govt. But also appreciate the privilege that MMP allows us in having a say in the proportional makeup of the next govt if enough people vote Greens or TPM. #NZPol
Show threadIka MakimakiJul 26, 2023

@jeremy_pm ok, but I'm not convinced the swing centre voter's priority is to be able to have more mines in conservation land.

Also, don't know if I said this but *they campaigned on it*.
Nobody forced them to make that promise and they DID get votes from it.

Votes that will (rightfully) not come back next time they say they care about anything environment.

It's not clever political calculation, it's bending to corporate interest.

(sorry if i sound upset, I am)

Show threadDave Lane  🇳🇿Jul 26, 2023
@pezmico @jeremy_pm I have weird feeling we're going to see a massive (unprecedented) rise in support for the NZ Greens and TPM. Just sayin'. I also (and this is wishful thinking) think we'll see a surge in first-time voters hitting the polling stations.
Show threadMark DarbyshireJul 26, 2023
@lightweight One hopes.

@pezmico @jeremy_pm
Show threadTinkerbellumJul 28, 2023
@lightweight
@pezmico
@jeremy_pm labour have never distanced themselves from the legacy of the Lange government and rogernomics. Absolutely everything they have done since then has been defined by their neoliberal ideology. Unfortunately, this is also the driving ideology of national and act, and they are even more zealous in their adherance to the almighty market. This is the narrow policy window that those three parties choose to operate and battle within, and anything remotely left is simply dismissed.
Show threadThaiis Thei 𓁟Jul 26, 2023
@jeremy_pm @pezmico It is precisely because people have accepted this spurious line of reasoning i.e. that we should let parties betray their principles in order to gain power, that we have ended up with the governments we have. If people instead chose to vote for parties that represented their actual principles e.g. The Greens things would improve.
Show threadJeremyJupiterJones Jul 26, 2023
@Oozenet @pezmico Sadly, this is largely due to media manipulation which is not honest with the masses.
Show threadThaiis Thei 𓁟Jul 27, 2023
@jeremy_pm @pezmico Anyone still buying the mediaindustrialcomplex's lies at this stage is a moron. This is firmly on us. Can we act with our convictions and in the full knowledge of the realities of those who have betrayed us in the past and will continue to do so until the end of the world? Can we surpass our petty rivalries and join together to restore The Earth to health? Can we at least agree on this one thing and choose to nourish the place we live?
Show threadDave Lane  🇳🇿Jul 26, 2023
@pezmico also, a reminder that 6ish years ago Labour campaigned on "No to the TPPA" but then signed up & ratified it within days of forming the gov't. Apparently David Parker drove that (following hot on the heels of Todd McClay and Tim Groser before him). For whose benefit, I wonder? Certainly not that of NZers. Tim G got a big fat diplomatic posting out of it (to NYC)... all 3 are traitors to NZers, selling us all out to multinationals (see https://davelane.nz/tppa-select-committee-redux-2018-edition).
TPPA Select Committee Redux, 2018 edition

Introduction Hello members of the Committee. I thank you for taking the time to listen to me concerning this vital matter.

Dave Lane
Show threadDave Lane  🇳🇿Jul 26, 2023
@pezmico that betrayal ensures I'll never vote Labour. And I'll never vote National because they suspended democracy in Canterbury to lock us in to the entirely unsustainable big-Ag Cant'y Plains Water Scheme, where some of the Nat'l-appointed 'administrators' of the autocratic council held shares in the CPWS company *at the time*. Corruption, plain & simple, and personal profit over people & planet.
Show threadFitheachJul 26, 2023

@pezmico

> Labour are just Tories with another name.

True everywhere.

#UKPol

Show threadJosh O'Connor-ChenJul 26, 2023
@pezmico Labour and chasing the votes of people who hate them - name a more iconic duo.