Mastodawn

Ika Makimaki Jul 26, 2023

Labour has voted down the GreensNZ member's bill to end mining on conservation land & keep coal in the ground.

In a climate emergency.

The only thing you can count on the Labour Party is being utterly disappointing.

This was just another campaign promise they broke.

Funny how when they promise no CGT or No Wealth Tax, they manage to keep those.

Labour are just Tories with another name.

@pezmico People need to get over the idea that Labour are a left wing party. Labour is a centrist party with some left aligned social policy, meanwhile, the Nats have chased ACT into the far right dystopian dead lands. If you want left wing, progressive and critical climate and social action by the next NZ Government Party Vote NZ Greens or TPM. #NZPol

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Ika Makimaki

@jeremy_pm I know. And I have never and will never give them a single vote.

But this was something they campaigned on (under Ardern, granted).

And it should be the bare minimum; they keep their word to the rich.
It's not banning ALL mining.
It's just protecting already designated Conservation land.
But not even that is possible with these spineless liars.

@pezmico The reality is Labour are fighting a battle in the center for the swing center left/right voters. I accept that Labour have to do what they have to do be in a position to form a govt. But also appreciate the privilege that MMP allows us in having a say in the proportional makeup of the next govt if enough people vote Greens or TPM. #NZPol

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Ika Makimaki Jul 26, 2023

@jeremy_pm ok, but I'm not convinced the swing centre voter's priority is to be able to have more mines in conservation land.

Also, don't know if I said this but *they campaigned on it*.
Nobody forced them to make that promise and they DID get votes from it.

Votes that will (rightfully) not come back next time they say they care about anything environment.

It's not clever political calculation, it's bending to corporate interest.

(sorry if i sound upset, I am)

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Dave Lane

🇳🇿Jul 26, 2023

@pezmico @jeremy_pm I have weird feeling we're going to see a massive (unprecedented) rise in support for the NZ Greens and TPM. Just sayin'. I also (and this is wishful thinking) think we'll see a surge in first-time voters hitting the polling stations.

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Mark Darbyshire Jul 26, 2023

@lightweight One hopes.

@pezmico @jeremy_pm

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Tinkerbellum Jul 28, 2023

@lightweight
@pezmico
@jeremy_pm labour have never distanced themselves from the legacy of the Lange government and rogernomics. Absolutely everything they have done since then has been defined by their neoliberal ideology. Unfortunately, this is also the driving ideology of national and act, and they are even more zealous in their adherance to the almighty market. This is the narrow policy window that those three parties choose to operate and battle within, and anything remotely left is simply dismissed.

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Thaiis Thei 𓁟 Jul 26, 2023

@jeremy_pm @pezmico It is precisely because people have accepted this spurious line of reasoning i.e. that we should let parties betray their principles in order to gain power, that we have ended up with the governments we have. If people instead chose to vote for parties that represented their actual principles e.g. The Greens things would improve.

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JeremyJupiterJones

Jul 26, 2023

@Oozenet @pezmico Sadly, this is largely due to media manipulation which is not honest with the masses.

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Thaiis Thei 𓁟 Jul 27, 2023

@jeremy_pm @pezmico Anyone still buying the mediaindustrialcomplex's lies at this stage is a moron. This is firmly on us. Can we act with our convictions and in the full knowledge of the realities of those who have betrayed us in the past and will continue to do so until the end of the world? Can we surpass our petty rivalries and join together to restore The Earth to health? Can we at least agree on this one thing and choose to nourish the place we live?