Joe0x7F
George Takei 
🏳️🌈🖖🏽There’s something in the air today. Could it be…yes, I recognize that. It’s the sweet smell of a pending indictment. Federal flavored, I believe. Can’t come soon enough.
Yaoi Box Balloon@georgetakei Sometimes we are truly blessed.
cybik 
@georgetakei there's hints of 2021 rage with a whiff of tan-lotion, if I'm not mistaken.
Quasselkasper
J. Scott Coatsworth, Author@georgetakei awesome to see you here.
@jscottcoatsworth Great to be here, friend.
Steve Fenton ➜@georgetakei Justice petrichor!
ScottS
John Watson 🇺🇸🇨🇦@georgetakei Indeed George. I’m here for it.
Tafkak@georgetakei Your lips, God’s ears… you know the drill.
Knight Of The Mace Daddies@georgetakei fingers very crossed 🤞🏻
@georgetakei It's got earthy undertones.
Sebastian@georgetakei What does that even mean? I’m really not firm in the U.S. Justice system but it seems he was indicted a few times which did nothing in the end. I will hold back cheering until he is behind bars or at least banned from office. Anything else doesn’t mean anything anymore.
@moehrenfeld @georgetakei Unfortunately a conviction would not legally prevent him to run for president. And here is why there is multiple indicments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump?wprov=sfla1
@pepper1700 I’m aware of his indictments, I’m just not in the mood for cheering indictments when most likely nothing will come of them. I’ll believe it when I see it.
A Slightly Orange Cat@moehrenfeld I share your frustration, but we haven't reached the end yet; none of the trials have even started.
@mbrailer Yeah, I know. That’s why I can’t really understand why people are still happy about indictments. 🤷♂️
dawnfry@georgetakei @moehrenfeld
He was impeached twice while in office. That’s a two part process. One half gives the label, the second kicks him out of office and the VP takes over.
His party controlled the second part. So label, but no boot out the door.
An indictment means that a federal prosecutor thinks they have enough evidence to win a criminal court case against him, and are taking it to trial in front of a judge. If he is found guilty of a felony (a process that is way too easy to do to poor people in this country but hard to get a conviction for the rich), then he can never run for office again as long as that felony lasts on his record.
IF he is convicted of a felony in a state that always elects the opposing political party, or if the optics are bad enough his own party won’t be willing to save him - he will not be pardoned by the Governor (head elected official) of that state and will have a permanent record. So he will never be able to run again.
He can afford expensive lawyers for the court case, and has enough money and lack of ethics to pay off jurors. He also has a big fan club willing to lie and cheat for him. So there is a lot of doubt that he will actually be held accountable.
Our current President has promised not to pardon him if he is convicted. But that’s not a certainty if the rich and powerful play “let’s make a deal” over it.
For a lot of us, seeing him actually behind bars in an orange jumpsuit will be the only time we can really believe there will be any consequences for him.
@dawnfry @georgetakei @moehrenfeld I thought a conviction did not prevent him for running,did I miss something?
@pepper1700 @moehrenfeld @georgetakei
I thought it disqualified him, but I was wrong.
Hopefully even the Republicans will start abandoning his sinking ship, but it’s possible that he would get the nomination and be their presidential candidate.
From what I have read:
If he’s not President at the time of a judgement against him, then he has to face whatever punishment is dictated by the court if found guilty. This is the best case scenario.
If he is convicted and is serving time in prison, then if he was elected to the Presidency, the Vice President would assume his duties as he would be unable to perform them. (This is in the US Constitution.)
If he is elected to the Presidency while the case is ongoing things get fuzzier. It would be down to Congress to impeach him again if he was found guilty, hopefully getting it past both houses so he would be not just impeached but removed. He can’t be removed by a judge’s decision - they don’t have that power over the executive branch (the checks & balances of our government). If that impeachment by Congress is successful, once again the VP takes over.
If the full impeachment process fails (it has two parts) we don’t have a “vote of no confidence” like the UK, but the person’s own political party can make it difficult to govern and block many Presidential actions IF they chose to do so. That’s a big IF in this case.
Our system really isn’t set up to counter bad actors who’s Party are complicit in their criminal actions. We weren’t supposed to have political parties in the US, it was a later development. It was assumed that people elected to office would not be seeking to destroy the government that they were supposed to be serving. As we have found out recently, that is a false assumption that makes it very difficult to prevent corruption.
Toadman628@georgetakei Just another chapter of our Republic. The idea is at a point to put Trump in the rear view mirror. Just that we may see the grayish walls as we see Federal Marshall help remand him to prison. They'll pull back out the gate, but he'll remain.
@georgetakei From throwing ketchup bottles to packets.
Weasel@georgetakei
I love the smell of ketchup in the morning. It smells like... Justice.
I love the smell of ketchup in the morning. It smells like... Justice.
Rai Aren 🖖✨📚🇺🇦
Rider Of Dinosaurs 🏴🏳️🌈@georgetakei the sad truth about it all is that he's going to get away with it all.
Jenni Remi@georgetakei let it be soon!
Gregarious Otherone@georgetakei Yes, the Hunter Biden laptop scandal has finally been debunked because those damned Russians made up the whole thing to embarrass his father.