spadufThe Best Way to Find Out If Someone Is a Trump Voter? Ask Them What They Think About Manhood.
im stuffi feel like really the best way to find out is to ask them
Not really, my parents voted for him twice, and will vote for him again, but they are very careful around me to act like they would not.
“Well, they’re all pretty bad” seems to me to mean “I vote against my self interests”
BrooklynManyeah, that’s code for the “both sides” argument.
Well, they know you’re intelligent…
While, there are outliers, it’s pretty easy to trip up a Trumpet into revealing they’re a Trumper.
One of my go to’s is to make a statement the seems to support Trump but get a detail wrong. A Trumper will immediately correct you
And you call yourself reality boy? Clearly your parents are creating a fantasy for you.
Knowing that my father voted for trump twice doesn’t feel nice. Luckily I live in a different country.
To be clear, the article is talking about correlations in polling, not suggesting you strike up conversations with your neighbors.
there has to be a “who fid you vote for” poll to correlate against, no?
Flying Squidnot suggesting you strike up conversations with your neighbors.
I don’t know, maybe we should be doing that more often…
SwogglesWith people getting shot for knocking on a door? No thank you.
Semi-Hemi-Demigodnot suggesting you strike up conversations with your neighbors
oh thank god
I can usually spot the stream of drool a few yards out.
irkliThis story is a long read, and until section 5, won’t seem appropriate to OPs post.
Not sure I agree with all of the conclusions, but wow there’s a lot of good observations in here!
While I differ from conservatives on most issues, I actually agree with them on some aspects of the gender war. Feminism does demonize men in its efforts to champion women sometimes, and it’s been a rather frustrating and depressing experience to see that most liberals seem totally blind to what I see as superficially subtle, but very clear signs in popular media and politics. As examples, I’d point to the recent Barbie film, which portrays men as buffoonish caricatures of patriarchal stereotypes a perhaps a bit dated moment in politics from a decade back, wherein Barrack Obama celebrated in a speech women making up 60% of college graduates.
I obviously won’t be voting Republican, but I really do hope the Left reigns in the misandry and finds a way to advocate for women without shitting on men.
Whiskey Pickleoh, look-- it works!
It’s a movie.
On the flip side of things, we have nearly a century of movies treating women as largely useless, fragile creatures who don’t do anything of importance, so let’s balance that on the scales while we’re at it perhaps.
Demonizing men doesn’t help women. I’m all for addressing women’s issues, including how they’re represented in popular media, but representing men poorly is a totally unnecessary part of that. Do you think the solution to the legacy of slavery is for Blacks to enslave Whites for 150 years? To balance the scales? What a bullshit notion.
Nope, you’re reaching. Should every man in every move and show be represented in an idealized way at all times? How do you even remotely judge what’s a character (which is to say an individual) being portrayed in a particular way versus all men, everywhere being “demonized” as you put it?
Virtually every male character in that film is portrayed negatively, and the feminist messaging is very clear. I’d say that qualifies as demonizing.
Virtually every male character in that film is portrayed negatively, and the feminist messaging is very clear. I’d say that qualifies as demonizing.
What does negatively mean in this context? What are some examples? I haven’t seem the movie.
Here’s a decent enough summary of the plot. The film depicts all the Kens as idiotic, shallow, patriarchy-loving simpletons who are dependent on their Barbie counterparts and many men in the Real World as misogynistic assholes.
Barbie in Minutes | Recap
I could see how for some women that would be a not entirely unrealistic experience of the men in their lives. Especially if they were raised in more conservative states. Even to the extent that it may not be ideal (and I’m assuming it’s not being mischaracterized here), it seems like such a minor thing. How many cultural war battles have come and gone and been forgotten without the culture actually changing in any significant way? I’d wager a fair number.
Okay, I’m pretty sure you just willfully don’t want to see my point, so I’m going to bid this thread adieu.
I see it, I just don’t think it’s as significant or important as you do.
I knew their was a reason I didn’t want to see that movie. I just didn’t know what it was until now.
This identifies two problems, and doesn’t negate the original problem (two wrongs make a right fallacy). Let’s work to fix both problems.
Let’s put more of our time and effort into fixing the problem which has existed in some form for all of human history and then whatever time and energy we have left over can go to working on the present blip related to the Barbie movie.
Yeah you’re right, women aren’t doing their movement right, they should let men do it for them since they’ll do it right
If it’s being run by people like you, who can’t even read a civil comment on the internet and respond in a civil fashion, I think it’s doomed no matter what gender you are.
Conservative’s chief flaw is their love of dishonesty and contempt for honesty. Liberal’s chief flaw is that they sometimes point the outrage machine at the wrong target.
Isn’t this a long article saying that men need better father figures or role models in their lives? We know that’s true. Not having a good dad creates more soldiers, more followers and more men willing to be abused for their work. It’s no wonder that they’re going after abortion, anything that helps the lower and middle classes and education. I can’t say this enough, the GOP is not your dad and if they were, they would be called a deadbeat dad.