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RFK Jr.: Media hitting me harder than Trump

https://lemmy.world/post/2062180

RFK Jr.: Media hitting me harder than Trump - Lemmy.world

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. blamed the media for dragging his campaign Sunday, saying he has been slammed “even more than President Trump was slammed” by mainstream media outlets. “I’ve been really, you know, slammed in a way that I think is unprecedented,” Kennedy said during an interview on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures.” Kennedy, a longtime vaccine skeptic who is running a longshot primary campaign against President Joe Biden, is more popular among Republicans than Democrats, according to polling. The nephew of former President John F. Kennedy and the son of his brother, Robert F. Kennedy, Kennedy Jr. has been hit with backlash for his stances on vaccines, particularly recent comments he made suggesting that the coronavirus could have been “targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people,” while sparing Jewish and Chinese people. Kennedy denied allegations of racism and antisemitism, saying on Twitter: “I have never, ever suggested that the Covid-19 virus was targeted to spare Jews.” “I mean, listen, if I believed the stuff that’s written about me in the papers and reported about me on the mainstream news sites, I would definitely not vote for me,” Kennedy told host Maria Bartiromo. “I would think I was a very despicable person.”

teft Jul 23, 2023

Gee, I wonder why the media would hit a spoiler candidate like RFK Jr harder than someone who is entangled in multiple trials?

Astroturfed Jul 24, 2023

Either he’s a complete and utter moron, or he’s being bankrolled by people who have made promises to him for trying to hurt the democrats. Either way, don’t see him quitting at a rational time.

echoplex21 Jul 24, 2023

I feel like he helps Biden more than he does Trump no?

popcornheadlines Jul 24, 2023

He’s being bankrolled is my guess

ZooGuru Jul 23, 2023

The mistake the media is making is covering RFK Jr. at all. Would have figured they’d learned their lesson with Trump. The media is as much to blame as any other entity for the US’s lurch to the right because they waste their time covering it.

formergijoe Jul 24, 2023

They did learn their lesson from Trump. Articles about crazy candidates brings more site traffic.

ZooGuru Jul 24, 2023

You are absolutely right.

echoplex21 Jul 24, 2023

The media at the end of the day care about ratings and clicks. RFK gives that to them unfortunately as it does with Trump.

agentsquirrel Jul 24, 2023

The only reason he’s getting coverage or any attendees at his events is because he’s a Kennedy. If he didn’t have that last name he’d be just yet another fringe candidate giving talks to fifteen people at a time at fire companies and senior centers.

Vlhacs Jul 24, 2023

He’s already at the “the media is unfair to me” stage. That was quick.

Also, the last paragraph is hilarious.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Although the media hit Trump really hard, the left-on-left violence seems pretty unprecedented.

It;s clear that the left knows that he’s not establishment, like Biden is, and that if he got a fair chance, he’d probably stomp Biden.

jeffw Jul 24, 2023

A vaccine conspiracy theorist has no chance against any sane person

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

He wants vaccine testing similar to almost all of western europes. That’s not a conspiracy theory.

sane person

So…not biden?

If they weren’t nervous, they wouldn’t be trying everything they could to discredit, trash and suppress his voice.

jeffw Jul 24, 2023

Our childhood vaccines are documented to be safe. He is a conspiracy theorist who is assisting the murder of children.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

He’s concerned that some vaccines are unnecessary for kids that we require for every kid.

For example the NHS in the UK advises against the chickenpox vaccine.

jeffw Jul 24, 2023

I just looked it up and the NHS does not warn against it at all. They only administer it to certain people.

The NHS also doesn’t buy enough MRI machines, leading to long wait times. Does that mean they’re anti-MRI? No, they’re just frugal

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

You’re right, I apologize for my framing.

They only recommend it to a small minority of people.

So…they don’t recommend it to the majority of people.

Chickenpox vaccine overview

Find out how the chickenpox (varicella) vaccine protects vulnerable people from the potentially dangerous consequences of this normally mild illness.

nhs.uk

jeffw Jul 24, 2023

Again, reread my comment about efficiency and cost-saving.

Or are you agreeing that it’s perfectly safe and we have no reason to doubt that?

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Again, re-read my comment about RFK Jr. wanting our standards to be more in line with the rest of our peer countries.

Our FDA is bribed by big-pharma, who constantly lie to consumers and have no repurcussions, despite us know they lie to us. I’d rather break out of the system where big pharma runs our healthcare policies.

Drusas Jul 24, 2023

Shingles for everyone!

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Not having the vaccine, and encouraging natural immunity actually reduces the effects of shingles.

When people get chickenpox, the virus remains in the body. This can then reactivate at a later date and cause shingles. Being exposed to chickenpox as an adult (for example, through contact with infected children) boosts your immunity to shingles. If you vaccinate children against chickenpox, you lose this natural boosting, so immunity in adults will drop and more shingles cases will occur.

Chickenpox vaccine FAQs

Find the answers to common questions about the chickenpox vaccine, including why it's not available as part of the routine NHS vaccination schedule.

nhs.uk

Drusas Jul 24, 2023

Yeah, and being exposed to chickenpox as a child makes you more likely to have shingles as an adult. Most people encounter it as a child.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Most children don’t get shingles.

Drusas Jul 24, 2023

Obviously. They get chicken pox, which is the same virus. Having chickenpox as a child predisposes you for shingles as an adult.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

So it seems you don’t understand.

I recommend reading the NHS website for their opinions on why they don’t recommend the chicken pox vaccine.

snipgan Jul 24, 2023

If a childhood chickenpox vaccination programme was introduced, people would not catch chickenpox as children because the infection would no longer circulate in areas where the majority of children had been vaccinated.
This would leave unvaccinated children susceptible to getting chickenpox as adults, when they're more likely to develop a more severe infection or a secondary complication.

So, basically get chicken pox earlier to build immunity, regardless if it makes you more susceptible to shingles, to better protect you from shingles as an adult. Since it is more likely to hurt you as an adult versus as a kid.

Sill seems fine to still vaccinate as that would lower the amount of chickenpox floating around to begin with...

Both options seem reasonable to me, although I would lean on vaccination still.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Both options seem reasonable to me, although I would lean on vaccination still.

If both getting vaxxed or not getting vaxxed is reasonable, is that something we should require for nearly kids?

snipgan Jul 24, 2023

I would yes.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

I disagree, if there’s a negligable difference, why form people to get a shot from big pharma that’s known to lie to the FDA, CDC and the public

snipgan Jul 24, 2023

I didn't say there was negligible difference or was talking about big pharma.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

You said both options are reasonable, but you’re going to force people to make the decision that you support?

snipgan Jul 24, 2023

Not forced. Require for public schools and such.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

And what happens if your kid doesn’t go to the government education institutes?

They take your kid away.

Literally it’s forced to vaccinate your kids or they get taken away.

So once again, you see it as reasonable someone may not want to give their kids the chicken pox vaccine, but you’re forcing it, at the threat of taking their children away?

snipgan Jul 24, 2023

All no.

Drusas Jul 25, 2023

Herd immunity. Not killing immunocompanized children is a good thing.

TwoGems Jul 24, 2023

Thank God you’re not in charge of anything.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Or else…I might agree with most of western europe?

I thought the left thought that was a good thing!

TwoGems Jul 24, 2023

You’ve never met anyone from Western Europe, nor know what they think.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 25, 2023

You’ve never met anyone from Western Europe,

Yes I have, many.

nor know what they think

I mean, I sourced the NHS. I’m not interviewing citizens in western europe, but I also never claimed to have.

YoBuckStopsHere Jul 25, 2023

Chicken Pox and Shingles are the same virus.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Advocating for big pharma being more responsible for the drugs they pump into our system, while bribing FDA officials isn’t assisting the murder of children.

If anyone is against holding big pharma responsible for the opiod epidemic, and holding the FDA responsible for it, is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.

jeffw Jul 24, 2023

You’re bad at trolling lol.

Either that or you REALLY don’t want to read RFK’s bio, even after another commenter linked to a source

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

I know RFK’s bio.

Do you know your favorite big pharma companies bio? en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical…

What’s funny is how many settlements there are, despite the federal government protecting them from the majority of lawsuits. Imagine getting sued this much, when the government makes it illegal hahaha

List of largest pharmaceutical settlements - Wikipedia

Blackbeard Jul 24, 2023

He wants vaccine testing similar to almost all of western europes. That’s not a conspiracy theory.

Bullshit. He’s been peddling dangerous crackpot theories for decades:

Kennedy made his name in the anti-vaccine movement in 2005, when he published a story alleging a massive conspiracy regarding thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that had been removed from all childhood vaccines except for some variations of the flu vaccine in 2001. In his piece, Kennedy completely ignored an Institute of Medicine immunization safety review on thimerosal published the previous year; he’s also ignored the nine studies funded or conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that have taken place since 2003.

Coming from someone who read some of his fantastic environmental work from the Bush II era, I can honestly say he’s ventured so far into the deep end of paranoia he should be shunned everywhere he goes. Children are dying because of him.

How Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Distorted Vaccine Science

His anti-vaccine credentials date back to 2005

Scientific American

jeffw Jul 24, 2023

I have this conspiracy theory where he’s actually a genius who realized the world is overpopulated and is now on an evil genius plan to murder the world’s children to save the planet

But it’s obviously just a joke

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

He’s against mercury in the vaccines.

A lot have been removed since his initial push against it, because the vaccines we were pumping into everyone had them.

I thank him for his work to get poisonous amounts of mercury out of the vaccines

“Thiomersal (also spelled thimerosal, especially in the United States) is an organomercury compound used as a preservative in vaccines to prevent bacterial and fungal contamination.[9] Following a mandated review of mercury-containing food and drugs in 1999, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) determined that under the existing vaccination schedule “some children could be exposed to a cumulative level of mercury over the first 6 months of life that exceeds one of the federal guidelines on methyl mercury.”[20][21] They asked vaccine makers to remove thiomersal from vaccines as quickly as possible as a precautionary measure, and it was rapidly phased out of most US and EU vaccines,[22][23] but is still used in multi-dose vials of flu vaccines in the U.S.”

I’m pro-vaccine. So is RFK Jr. He has concerns with some of the testing and chemicals in some of the mandatory vaccines.

I’d rather have overly cautious studies when it comes to big pharma, their limited liability, their rich history in bribing US officials (including FDA members), pumping the country full of poison (see opioids) while lying to people about what is in their drugs.

Thiomersal and vaccines - Wikipedia

Pratai Jul 24, 2023

Shill much?

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

In what way?

Flying Squid Jul 24, 2023

Thiomersal is in almost no vaccines at this point, and you get more mercury from a can of tuna than you would from a vaccine with thiomersal in it.

So maybe start scaremongering about tuna salad sandwiches instead.

zephyrvs Jul 24, 2023

Do you know if Thiomersal was removed from most vaccines before or after the issue was brought up?

Flying Squid Jul 24, 2023

Why did you ignore the part of my comment about tuna?

zephyrvs Jul 24, 2023

I’m vegan.

Flying Squid Jul 24, 2023

Ok? How is that relevant to the fact that there is far more mercury in a can of tuna than there ever were in any vaccine? Shouldn’t your dire warnings be tuna salad-based? Shouldn’t you be telling the world that they’ll get mercury poisoning from tuna salad?

zephyrvs Jul 24, 2023

I was asking a question, hoping you’d know before I’d have to research it on my own, since you seem to have done some research on this.

I don’t get why you’re being so passive aggressive.

Flying Squid Jul 24, 2023

Believe it or not, repeating that doesn’t answer my questions.

zephyrvs Jul 24, 2023

Lemmy was having issues so I didn’t see my initial reply.

MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

Thiomersal is in almost no vaccines at this point

Thanks to those who fought it!

and you get more mercury from a can of tuna than you would from a vaccine with thiomersal in it.

And they recommend limited how much tuna one eats…because of…that’s right! Mercury!

Blackbeard Jul 24, 2023

Ethylmercury (C2H5Hg+) and methylmercury (CH3Hg+) are not the same thing. The former is a preservative that’s rapidly metabolized, and the latter is a bio-accumulative environmental toxicant. Huge difference between ethyl and methyl groups. It’s the same reason that ethanol (C₂H₆O) will get you drunk but methanol (CH3OH) will make you go blind.

God I hate when internet laypeople try to act like they understand chemistry. Have you literally ever taken a chemistry class? If not, please start here, and in the meantime shut the hell up before you get someone killed.

Chemistry library | Science | Khan Academy

Chemistry is the study of matter and the changes it undergoes. Here you can browse chemistry videos, articles, and exercises by topic. We keep the library up-to-date, so you may find new or improved material here over time.

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MasterOBee Master/King Jul 24, 2023

I know they aren’t the same thing.

I’m simply stating that due to thiomersal, there was questions of mercury poisoning. Most vaccines don’t have thiomersal anymore (since 1999), which most agree is a good thing.

What are you even arguing?

Blackbeard Jul 24, 2023

It’s not a good or bad thing. It just is. The CDC reacted to a bunch of know-nothings who wanted something that sounded bad out of vaccines, so they took it out. Turns out it wasn’t dangerous at all and it was a bunch of wasted effort, and people still get to point back to it and say, “see!? it’s a GOOD thing!” The people questioning its toxicity were morons, and we kowtowed to a bunch of morons. Now people are saying we should put one of those morons in the White House. I’m arguing because you very clearly don’t understand that thimerosal/ethylmercury is not at all dangerous. It’s still in your flu vaccine.