teftJul 23, 2023

RFK Jr.: Media hitting me harder than Trump

https://lemmy.world/post/2062180

RFK Jr.: Media hitting me harder than Trump - Lemmy.world

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. blamed the media for dragging his campaign Sunday, saying he has been slammed “even more than President Trump was slammed” by mainstream media outlets. “I’ve been really, you know, slammed in a way that I think is unprecedented,” Kennedy said during an interview on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures.” Kennedy, a longtime vaccine skeptic who is running a longshot primary campaign against President Joe Biden, is more popular among Republicans than Democrats, according to polling. The nephew of former President John F. Kennedy and the son of his brother, Robert F. Kennedy, Kennedy Jr. has been hit with backlash for his stances on vaccines, particularly recent comments he made suggesting that the coronavirus could have been “targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people,” while sparing Jewish and Chinese people. Kennedy denied allegations of racism and antisemitism, saying on Twitter: “I have never, ever suggested that the Covid-19 virus was targeted to spare Jews.” “I mean, listen, if I believed the stuff that’s written about me in the papers and reported about me on the mainstream news sites, I would definitely not vote for me,” Kennedy told host Maria Bartiromo. “I would think I was a very despicable person.”

Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

Although the media hit Trump really hard, the left-on-left violence seems pretty unprecedented.

It;s clear that the left knows that he’s not establishment, like Biden is, and that if he got a fair chance, he’d probably stomp Biden.

Show threadjeffwJul 24, 2023
A vaccine conspiracy theorist has no chance against any sane person
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

He wants vaccine testing similar to almost all of western europes. That’s not a conspiracy theory.

sane person

So…not biden?

If they weren’t nervous, they wouldn’t be trying everything they could to discredit, trash and suppress his voice.

Show threadjeffwJul 24, 2023
Our childhood vaccines are documented to be safe. He is a conspiracy theorist who is assisting the murder of children.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

He’s concerned that some vaccines are unnecessary for kids that we require for every kid.

For example the NHS in the UK advises against the chickenpox vaccine.

Show threadDrusasJul 24, 2023
Shingles for everyone!
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

Not having the vaccine, and encouraging natural immunity actually reduces the effects of shingles.

When people get chickenpox, the virus remains in the body. This can then reactivate at a later date and cause shingles. Being exposed to chickenpox as an adult (for example, through contact with infected children) boosts your immunity to shingles. If you vaccinate children against chickenpox, you lose this natural boosting, so immunity in adults will drop and more shingles cases will occur.

Chickenpox vaccine FAQs

Find the answers to common questions about the chickenpox vaccine, including why it's not available as part of the routine NHS vaccination schedule.

nhs.uk
Show threadDrusasJul 24, 2023
Yeah, and being exposed to chickenpox as a child makes you more likely to have shingles as an adult. Most people encounter it as a child.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023
Most children don’t get shingles.
Show threadDrusasJul 24, 2023
Obviously. They get chicken pox, which is the same virus. Having chickenpox as a child predisposes you for shingles as an adult.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

So it seems you don’t understand.

I recommend reading the NHS website for their opinions on why they don’t recommend the chicken pox vaccine.

Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023

If a childhood chickenpox vaccination programme was introduced, people would not catch chickenpox as children because the infection would no longer circulate in areas where the majority of children had been vaccinated.
This would leave unvaccinated children susceptible to getting chickenpox as adults, when they're more likely to develop a more severe infection or a secondary complication.

So, basically get chicken pox earlier to build immunity, regardless if it makes you more susceptible to shingles, to better protect you from shingles as an adult. Since it is more likely to hurt you as an adult versus as a kid.

Sill seems fine to still vaccinate as that would lower the amount of chickenpox floating around to begin with...

Both options seem reasonable to me, although I would lean on vaccination still.

Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

Both options seem reasonable to me, although I would lean on vaccination still.

If both getting vaxxed or not getting vaxxed is reasonable, is that something we should require for nearly kids?

Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023
I would yes.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/King
I disagree, if there’s a negligable difference, why form people to get a shot from big pharma that’s known to lie to the FDA, CDC and the public
Jul 24, 2023 at 7:42pmWeb
Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023
I didn't say there was negligible difference or was talking about big pharma.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023
You said both options are reasonable, but you’re going to force people to make the decision that you support?
Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023
Not forced. Require for public schools and such.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

And what happens if your kid doesn’t go to the government education institutes?

They take your kid away.

Literally it’s forced to vaccinate your kids or they get taken away.

So once again, you see it as reasonable someone may not want to give their kids the chicken pox vaccine, but you’re forcing it, at the threat of taking their children away?

Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023
All no.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

To which parts?

You started out pretty well, seeing both sides of the issue, understanding why some may choose not to get the CP vaxx. But then you turned totalitarian real quick.

“It’s not mandated. Only if they go to public school…which you pay for. So you pay for a school that you’re mandated to send your children to unless you want them taken away and put into the foster care system where they will get sexually abused, and you have to inject them with whatever we say, or else you can’t send them to school, which we will then take your kids away.”

Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023
Still all no.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023
You have absolutely no argument at all. Just because you say ‘no’ doesn’t make it wrong.
Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023
What wrong?
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023
If you have no argument against my statements, you admit you have inconsistent reasoning, and that makes it unconvincing.
Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023
No, and I explained why.
Show threadMasterOBee Master/KingJul 24, 2023

You didn’t explain anything. You just keep saying no. You sound like a politician. Just keep saying no and eventually the smarter person gives up on trying to convince you, and you think you won.

Have a good day.

Show threadsnipganJul 24, 2023

What? I thought we were having a conversation.

Oh well. Vaccinate your kids boys and girls. Chau~

Show threadDrusasJul 25, 2023
Herd immunity. Not killing immunocompanized children is a good thing.