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Strypey Jul 20, 2023

"If you're only prepared to make popular decisions as a leader though, then what is the point of leadership? It's not really leadership is it. It's just focus-grouping. It's just polling. Instead of laying out a platform, debating its merits, and pursuing a really distinct vision, you might as well just have a smartphone app or a website, on which everyone votes for every little policy."

#JakeTame, 2023

Quoted in Midweek #MediaWatch on #RNZ:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018898749/midweek-mediawatch-too-much-information-too-soon

#NZPolitics #leadership

Midweek Mediawatch - too much information too soon?

Midweek Mediawatch - Colin Peacock talks to Mark Leishman about intense coverage of a mother accused of killing her children - and the media finally covering the crimes of Sir James Wallace. Also: Tova O’Brien returning to the media as some senior news editors depart; the media response to the PM ruling out wealth taxes - and the tabloid scoop giving the BBC a big headache.

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Strypey Jul 20, 2023

> a smartphone app or a website, on which everyone votes for every little policy

Sounds good to me. We could eliminate an expensive layer of besuited spokesmodels and PR spindoctors, who provide no real value to anyone but themselves. Instead, public servants could carry out whatever policies get a supermajority in a weekly of monthly batch of digital referenda.

#LiquidFeedback anyone?

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Lea de Groot TZ+10 Jul 20, 2023

@strypey What I *would* like to see (and I realise you are in .nz and I am in .au and you have that interesting proportional system already, so its different...)
is an MP elected on the basis of "these 10K (pick a number) people voted for me" not "the most people in this electorate voted for me".
(Lots of details to be worked out. Does it need to be "you can only vote for people within (pick a number) 1000km of you"?)
but _actual_ representation!

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Strypey Jul 20, 2023

@leadegroot
> I am in .au and you have that interesting proportional system already

I thought you used ranked voting for representatives in Oz?

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Lea de Groot TZ+10

@strypey yes, we do, but, for example, given I never vote for the MP we have had in local electorate for most of 20 years - I have effectively been unrepresented in all that time.
(God knows, the potato is a very rude man, although his staff are ok)
I think this would still require ranked voting (because if my #1 choice only gets 5 votes he's obviously not going to Canberra, so the electoral commission should count my #2 vote, etc)