I just had a brainwave about how to address low voter turnout in local body elections in Aotearoa. Could the solution be liquid democracy?

One reason people don't vote in local elections is that we don't really know who the candidates are. But most of us know at least one person who shares our values, and is really engaged in council politics. What if there was a simple, formally recognised way to delegate our vote to them?

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#Policy #LiquidDemocracy #LiquidFeedback #PolicyNZ

When I read articles like these - https://archive.is/gW2Wj - about the #Dutch #tax system and how our government fails to improve on it year after year, I think it might make sense to restart work on #LiquidFeedback alike open-source software systems. The purpose of that would be to preserve knowledge and automate discussions on topics that have been discussed to death before. Like Wikipedia, but subjectively instead of objectively.

The cynic in me says that any system purposed to prevent fail will fail.
The optimist in me says that any non-existing system purposed to automate will curse us into eternal repetition of manual mistakes, and that any baby step away from that is an improvement.

#liquidfeedback
#followerpower
Suche Unterstützung für #installation und #setup von Liquidfeedback für unsere Demokratie Initiave.
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Every time that the Pirate Party is in the news - their Dutch wing chose a new leader - I have to think back about their greatest achievement in 2013, #LiquidFeedback (LQFB), a tool for digital democracy.

Because LQFB could be manipulated with sock puppet accounts (like Wikipedia and social media), it never made it mainstream. Alternative decision systems were created in the last ten years, such as #loomio. But I don't see any big systems or organizations using those either.

As long as we do not digitalize discussions and decisions how policies work, why they work like that and on which hard conditions they can be optimized, we are doomed to repeat discussions on social media why fundamental governmental ideas are actually good, e.g. to pay taxes at all, or why rich people should pay more than poor people. I'd love to stop troll noise, without censoring or disabling valid criticism.

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/212626/partijvoorzitter-mark-van-treuren-wordt-nieuwe-lijsttrekker-van-de-piratenpartij.html
https://digitaldemocracy.world/
https://github.com/lokehagberg
https://www.loomio.com/
https://help.loomio.com/en/user_manual/getting_started/index.html

Partijvoorzitter Mark van Treuren wordt nieuwe lijsttrekker van de Piratenpartij

Partijvoorzitter Mark van Treuren wordt de nieuwe lijsttrekker van de Piratenpartij. Hij volgt daarmee Matthijs Pontier en Ancilla van der Leest op, die tijdens vorige verkiezingen lijsttrekkers waren. De ict-georiënteerde partij doet deze verkiezingen mee als een lijst met De Groenen.

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@strypey
> #LiquidFeedback
There was a surprisingly effective twist on this approach in a local election manifesto recently, and the candidates had mild traction in pockets on polling day.
https://www.prajaakeeya.org/UPP%20SOP%20English.pdf

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> a smartphone app or a website, on which everyone votes for every little policy

Sounds good to me. We could eliminate an expensive layer of besuited spokesmodels and PR spindoctors, who provide no real value to anyone but themselves. Instead, public servants could carry out whatever policies get a supermajority in a weekly of monthly batch of digital referenda.

#LiquidFeedback anyone?

1 Aktie = 1 Stimme in Aktiengesellschaften ist offensichtlich suboptimal, siehe #BlackRock.
1 Stimme pro Person, unabhängig vom Betrag des eingezahlte Kapitals (K), bei vielen #Genossenschaften, erscheint mir aber auch anfällig für Störung z.B. von Leuten mit viel Tagesfreizeit.

Kennt jemand Organisationen, die log(K) oder so machen? Z.B. um Zeit- & Geld-Einsatz zu balancieren. Oder gleich #LiquidFeedback?

@richdecibels Great Interview - thanks! <3

You mention that there was/is no alternative software systems for decision making except #loomio. As I remember it, #adhocracy and #LiquidFeedback tried to tackle similar challenges. Do you have an opinion on #LiquidDemocracy?

@Perugiasostenibile Qui bisogna distinguere con molta attenzione due ambiti spesso confusi: quelli delle piattaforme di democrazia partecipativa e quelli delle piattaforme deliberative.
#Decidim si pone all'interno del primo ambito. #Liquidfeedback si colloca nel secondo.
Decidim per esempio è perfetto per fare in modo che le decisioni politiche degli enti locali o centrali vengano elaborate in trasparenza e in partecipazione con tutta la comunità degli amministrati. Gli amministrati possono commentare, porre dei like, addirittura avviare petizioni e partecipare ad assemblea virtuali.
Non si tratta tuttavia di una piattaforma deliberativa e, infatti, la possibilità di portarla all'interno di un partito per dotare i propri iscritti di uno strumento deliberativo è secondo me completamente sbagliata e ingannevole: la dirigenza del partito Infatti può utilizzare la moderazione di quella piattaforma addirittura per amplificare il proprio potere e, invece che per condividerlo con i propri compagni di partito.

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@macst3r
Kennst du eine Instanz/url, die #liquidfeedback Prozesse ermöglicht? Bin wegen einer anderen idee interessiert, partizipative Entscheidungsprozesse zu ermöglichen und finde keine Installation.
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