Mastodon absolutely needs more journalists. We should not have millions of people boosting one another’s ideas without a solid contingent of people in here professionally trained to vet stories, check facts, and use best practices for sharing news. It is, imo, an urgent issue & critical for the ongoing success of the fediverse #Press

I have zero patience for “no change” traditionalists in this space. the one thing standing between us and a whole lotta hurt is people practicing fact checking, professional thoughtfulness, and journalistic rigor at scale and everywhere.

yes we need to be able to text search public posts, quote toot, and increase ease for users. sorry there is no room for viewing fedi as your private hobby, the world needs fedi to work well for journalists and organizers

And if you want to come in tbe replies here and pop off like you couldn’t actually read or understand the first two posts you’ll be muted. The days of white reply guy norm enforcement are done on here. You’re done, we don’t want to hear it

*and the reason fedi needs to work for everyone is because there is a nonzero chance it ends up as a crucial global info sharing network if/when others fail or are too compromised by billionaires to function

@seachanger
I agree, more journalists are needed.

Twitter is already compromised. Shutting it off to non-members, if even briefly, affected crucial public info networks.

@seachanger I'm a journalist and I've tried this. I've found people are enormously opposed to being fact-checked - particularly when their post has gained some traction.
@seachanger I may have missed who this is directed at but I’ll take a stab. How do “no change” traditionalists if Republican, reconcile bad boy Donny Trump diving towards the rocks with nooses dragging them over the edge? 🤔

@seachanger

the thing is, I think it can be designed to accommodate many kinds of uses, safely and for everyone.

The longer I spend here the better I can kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel

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@seachanger I don't even disagree, but I do find it sad that every time there's been a mass migration of journalists into the fediverse, there's immediately moderation problems due to transphobia. Watched like two or three journalism-focused instances get defederated almost on day zero for refusing to moderate that shit.

@seachanger I forget whom it was, but one of the MSNBC hosts was calling out their journalistic colleagues by pointing out that the New York Times editorial board is significantly to the right of most Trump-appointed judges on the issue of transgender rights. That's never going to play well with fediverse instances focused on queer safety.

All the more reason I'm grateful for those journalists that have come over and haven't been hateful to queer folks. Agreed we need more, though.

@xgranade @seachanger What happened in these examples? From your post I don't understand whether there was transphobia from the outside against trans journalists or whether there were too many transphobic journalists on these instances? Either way, does it mean there are instances with journalists floating around where they do their journalism thing alone, being defederated by most other instances?
@johentsch @xgranade @seachanger I believe it was mostly transphobic journalists. Further the whole thing was quickly blown out of proportion. If I remember correctly there were relatively few servers that chose to defederate.
@spaduf @xgranade @seachanger Thank you. Well, from connecting these few bits of information to the generally poor journalistic assessments of the Fediverse in the larger outlets it's easy to imagine how a bunch of asocial-media-asocialized sensation seekers that are still allowed to call themselves journalists show up here like the literal mammooth in the china shop, trampling all the beautiful flowers, and then ranting about their shitty experience and how there was "nothing really going on".
@spaduf @xgranade @seachanger Personally, I have high esteem for all the journalists who deserve that title and high hopes that more and more of them will discover and recognize the values of (and behind) decentralized media.
@seachanger I've kind of lost faith in most press. The large organizations are focused on both-sidesing everything, legitimizing attacks on trans people, making fascist politicians sound normal. I'm all for more small or independent journalism to be here but I'm not sure we've lost much by the big names not being here.
@seachanger I think @adamdavidson made a good-faith, sincere early effort with journa.host
@seachanger why?

Why can't a person go to the AP site or PBS site and on and on and on.

Why does something always need to be measured in some arbitrary form of success? Why can't something like the Fediverse just "be?"
@seachanger

More journalists are welcome, however I wouldn't necessarily agree they are all expert at assessing and fact checking. If anything they might get an opportunity to interact with actual experts.

I have experience of this.

Many years ago I was a forensic scientist and many of the cases I worked on went to court and I would attend.

There was usually a reporter from the local press, and sometimes national press.
On reading accounts in the paper later, sometimes the only thing they got right was the plaintiff's name. It was as if they paid no attention at all and just made up some plausible guff. That is why I take no notice of journalists reporting on court cases.
@seachanger Last time #journalists wanted to join, they got defederated because some of the #fediverse thinks they're too inquisitive and promotional… 🙄️ https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalists-want-to-recreate-twitter-on-mastodon-mastodon-is-not-into-it.php
Journalists want to re-create Twitter on Mastodon. Mastodon is not into it.

<p>Ever since Elon Musk completed his $45 billion takeover of Twitter last month, there has been a steady stream of users, including a number of journalists, signing up for Mastodon, an open-source alternative. No one controls Mastodon—or rather, everyone controls their own version of it. There are thousands of servers running the software, and each […]</p>

Columbia Journalism Review
@nekohayo @seachanger But this is such a great example of journalists actively misrepresenting the issues at hand. If memory serves there were larger issues with moderation particularly around transphobia that they refused to address.
@nekohayo @seachanger Reminds me of a recent episode of the podcast from the Verge where they suggested that the reason for the anti meta pact was so that a bunch of tech bros could maintain control of this space. Completely ignoring the fact that the movement largely started on queer instances.
@seachanger I feel like there's a real opportunity to attract journalists from Canada to the Fediverse right now as Meta blocks much of their work on Instagram and Threads in response to Bill c18. If we can entice them here, it might act as a proof of concept to US journalists and beyond.

@seachanger

When it becomes possible to type in like, 'Kherson' or 'tornado', and search to see what others are posting about it, in real time and in chronological order

(and, conversely, post about emergencies ourselves)

journalists will 100% flock here.

Including global search as a default is too much of a security risk for marginalized groups, so it has to be opt-in. But journalists need this.

@seachanger why?
Personally I did not see media using Twitter as beneficial at all. It was all hype, fast food type of consumption, basically driving gotcha style sensationalism that got us here in the first place.
Idea that news have to be delivered fast has to die. News have to be precise. Well analysed. On point. Ignoring "opinions".
People who did solid media content did that before social networking and keep doing it right now. And I am actually sending them money.

@seachanger

The idea that journalists are unambiguous truth tellers or fact checkers is dead.

@seachanger I hear what you're saying, and I agree that grounded expertise is of utmost importance when it comes to bounding off the edges of objective reality - but a preponderance of credentialed journalists these days seem to be rather lacking in the "reason and critical thought" department (given how few of them have bothered to leave - or at least diversify away from - Twitter). I doubt that engaging such a group is as critical to the survival of the Fediverse as all that.
@seachanger I agree, but the state of journalism in the U.K., leaves me a little uncertain as to the value of their input.
@seachanger I guess a basic source of disconnect might be to what extent you consider actual journalists, especially journalists active on social media, to be people who actually do things like fact check and verify stories and all of those things you mention.

@seachanger

Have you seen Twitter, where all the journalists are? It's a cesspool of misinformation. An absence of journalists is not the problem.

But also, who vets the specific journalists? Due to platform biases, it seems there are as many journalists spreading that misinfo as there are ones who care about the integrity of their field.

@seachanger
This might be just straight bs, but people of every stripe have to create the world they want. I walked away from a lucrative career in order to make that happen. Too many people are confusing inconvenience with sacrifice. I see an ocean of excuses and very few legitimate reasons for supporting the continuation of corporate malfeasance and absolute fascism where the media and the masses as a whole unit are choosing to remain.
@seachanger I feel like the chaff is in the air as everyone tries out mastodon, post, bluesky, spoutable, spill and jesus-be-a-restraining-order threads. The lawyers and journalists are necessary to have in numbers on this kind of social, but please let's not consolidate on another tech narcissist because that's where they first leapt. Also, the fevered need for the Twitter bluechecks to rebuild their followers on a new thing is making them sweaty.
@seachanger While there are great journalists, journalism overall is falling far short because of corporate ownership.
@seachanger Calckey has both search and quote toots already (also antennas which I feel journalists would find useful).

I'm not trying to be flippant here, it's just other Fediverse software doesn't seem to be mentioned in these discussions even though it just has the features people often clamor for.

@seachanger

Good news: @dangillmor is here now, but obviously we'd like more.

@seachanger

I follow quite a few of them but I don't see a lot of their journo posts it seems. Others are doing the work. Have they all gone back to Elon's hell? Or on to Zuck's? Or are they being told not to post for themselves but let their editors do it for them?

@seachanger very much agree with you! We're mostly trying to be sane, but some pros in the mix is only to our benefit!
@seachanger Fully agree, I'm on some tech journalist email newsletters and the feeling I got was that they can't go "viral enough" - they actually have to engage and build a following, which takes more time - and I do think the mastodon community is hostile to anything that reeks of capitalism or click bait (self promoting doesn't do well here), since journalists have to pay the bills they don't see mastodon as a viable option for growing their community
@seachanger @guacamayan As much as I like it here, I see a lot more opinion than actual news stories. Journalists are welcome. I enjoy seeing my own opinions reflected back but what really moves the needle is someone sharing a story that I hadn’t seen. Cory’s great at that. Will take my own advice. #press
@seachanger When people post news here, I make a point to click on their links to news sources. They count views and clicks, and they track where those views and clicks come from. The more interaction they get from here, the more attention and resources they'll put here
@seachanger ...they want to get paid for their services...

@seachanger I agree 100% that we need properly trained journalists with all the qualifications you list. There are some here, the vast majority of those posting elsewhere don't even begin to satisfy the qualifications you mention. Most report, uncritically, whatever is said as if fascists have a valid point of view, or as if trans people's existence is in question.

Main stream traditional media has failed us. For justice, there is Just Us!

@seachanger
@randy

well, they are all on their way to https://fedi.camp
wish you could be there.
But it does not matter which software to use, I guess mastodon which has no Client-To-Server-support is not the best option for journalists who somehow like standards.
And so after the boat for a Climate Refugee story sank, I am doing @redaktor a full featured Open Source ActivityPub _conformant_ fedi software with best journalistic practices which can be extended by vocabularies like IPTC, NYT, EBU etc. I guess, this is a key to attract more :)

FediCamp

@seachanger Ultimately I agree with this whole heartedly but I think the previous attempts have really highlighted the fact that the issue is not with Mastodon or the fediverse more broadly, but with journalists themselves. It seems that they are overly comfortable acting as an in group that expects to be acquiesced to in exchange for a position on their platform. If the field weren't obsessed with profit motivation as the only acceptable reason to do anything they would get along just fine here. And many journalists do.

I think this is best exemplified by the unwillingness to simply switch to or develop a fediverse microblogging platform that has the features they "require".

@seachanger At one time people were dreaming of news outlets setting up their own mastodons so we'd know know accounts on those servers were official accounts.
@seachanger And who would one report the fake news to, so that its reach can be limited throughout the fediverse?