Dr. Emma L Briant🐕🇬🇧in🇦🇺Jul 14, 2023
If you are teaching about #propaganda in 2023, you should not be using #Chomsky as the authority on propaganda or #disinformation. Plenty still are. This is unwise, not only because he’s been wrong about important world events. His model (led by Ed Herman actually) also just misunderstands what propaganda is, focusing on structural and political economy issues in #journalism in a way that conflates the majority journalism with propaganda (which is a deliberate activity). 1/
Show threadGina Intheburg 🇺🇦 🌻 🥥🌴Jul 14, 2023

@emmalbriant

@emmalbriant

This does not sound like spreading disinfo to me - I hear Chomsky arguing for factual accuracy. He says the Khmer Rouge committed atrocities, the US bombing of Cambodia was no better & concluding "it is not proper to lie either in defending the crimes of your own state or exaggerating the crimes of your enemy."

Fidelity of facts is what we need more of in these days of the Trump-inspired dumpster fire of disinfo that's destroying democracy.
https://youtu.be/f3IUU59B6lw

Noam Chomsky - The Atrocities in Cambodia

YouTube
Show threadDr. Emma L Briant🐕🇬🇧in🇦🇺
@ginaintheburg Steven Lukes was right https://stevenlukes.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/lukes_chomsky_debate_1980_1981-2.pdf
Jul 14, 2023 at 8:18amWeb
Show threadGina Intheburg 🇺🇦 🌻 🥥🌴Jul 14, 2023

@emmalbriant

You have the advantage over me if being an expert in the field.

However, my reading of your source material is that Steven Lukes' primary criticism of Chomsky appears to be that he finds him "pedantic." With the context of Chomsky's argument in the YouTube vid in mind, it appears Lukes is misconstruing or distorting Chomsky's pt, which is that Pinchaud's figures were presented & accepted as factual when they were not. He acknowledges the precise numbers are unknowable.

Show threadDr. Emma L Briant🐕🇬🇧in🇦🇺Jul 14, 2023
@ginaintheburg Lukes was concerned that Chomsky dismissed the genuine accounts of refugees from Cambodia.