NO, NOT EVERNOTE
🤯 argh!!

I have my *whole* ethnographic material, from all things I've done, since 2012 in there. Was never really certain about it, but it was a visually pleasant environment to work in, it was very well integrated with the phone, the web clipper has been very nice to use, and it has indeed helped me out organise my thoughts…

Has anyone here tried out Joplin or Obsidian and might recommend? Have you imported from Evernote and has all worked well? Any other tips?

@tscriado

I tried Joplin for a while but had trouble syncing between phone and pc. I use #obsidian for my non-ethnographic data (because I'd want to encrypt it for ethnographic data and haven't looked into that yet). Phone synching is possible I believe either through their subscription or with your own cloudservice. I really love obsidian for its combination of a) a simplistic, non-vendor lock-in system with b) quite a lot of customisation options and a very active online community sharing ideas and creating plugins.
For ethnographic data I use @notesnook. It's a small company similar to standardnotes. All the good privacy stuff you want for ethnography; open source and zero knowledge encryption. They support Evernote import and have accessible plans for education.

@sjanep @notesnook super-useful info! Thanks very much!!

@tscriado @sjanep @notesnook Horrible Evernote story. I actually had the same journey moving from Joplin to Obsidian. Joplin always felt slightly too clunky. Obsidian feels more natural and powerful, especially with the new Canvas feature. We use Obsidian for our projects for documentation, excerpts, text drafts, and coding of interviews. We sync via the Cloud or SyncThing.

There are also a thousand community plugins, but I try to use as few as possible. Beware of productivity YouTube.

@stefanlaser @tscriado

Ha I fully agree about productivity YouTube
I am curious to learn more about how you go about collaborating via obsidian - only if you are open to share more in detail of course.
You use one vault? In that case; do you struggle with knowing who made edits? How do you go about coding interviews? I'd be very interested to find out how to do this in obsidian instead of nvivo etc.

@sjanep @tscriado We love sharing our experience. In fact, our research centre (16 projects) has an INF project with this purpose in mind, helping us.

So, we have 1 major vault for our project, 4 people take part. It's organized w/ #Johnnydecimal and #Zettelkasten. Meeting notes, lit. notes, research, articles. Sync via Nextcloud. Sometimes we have conflicts. We add hashtags for todos or authorship.

Coding is in a separate, encrypted vault. Simple yet effective design: https://github.com/LaserStefan/obsidian-qualitative-analysis-environment

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@sjanep @tscriado Also tagging @neuezukunft for this: the INF Obsidian master of @sfb1567.
@stefanlaser @sjanep @tscriado Thanks for adding me – very interesting to learn about your stories. I'm not so sure about being a master, though – let's say gardener. 🌱
@stefanlaser @sjanep @tscriado In my own research, I use Obsidian for ethnographic field notes and started doing my analysis with it using wikilinks and tags – I think it is going well so far.
@stefanlaser @sjanep @tscriado At the @sfb1567 we use Obsidian to compile an edited volume – it is a good fit if you aim for a wiki-like product, but both text file-based working and Obsidian do come with hurdles if you are a newcomer.
@stefanlaser @sjanep @tscriado For me, the primary argument for Obsidian seams to be its open and simple foundation in txt/md files, which not only can be migrated but also edited in place with other tools – text files just travel well.
@fabianpittroff @stefanlaser @sjanep you're all almost convincing me to try out Obsidian. I've been the whole week trying to make Joplin work, but the syncing with the phone is driving me bonkers, and I need the phone for a new fieldwork project. Thanks for the input!
@tscriado @fabianpittroff @sjanep Have you tried syncing w/ SyncThing? Should work with any folder. And Obsidian Sync on the phone is also a project on its own (or you buy it).
@stefanlaser @fabianpittroff @sjanep the syncing with the phone on Joplin has its own thing, but thanks for the tip!