stux⚡️What is the best web browser if it comes to #privacy?
Chrome is out of the question, I’m leaning towards Brave or Firefox. For MacOS, iOS & Linux 😇
driesverlinden@stux Brave is build on Chromium, so not sure about that.
Zsolt@driesverlinden @stux the rendering engine is open-source, and not full of proprietary Google services code. Even if it was, it could be removed/replaced without issues.
@zsoltsandor @stux Thanks the info!
shadowwwind@zsoltsandor @stux
And brave does make a lot of work on removing that.
@shadowwwind @driesverlinden @stux including the Safe Browsing lists, they are proxying the Google lists, cutting the direct connection on that side as well.
Isaac Torres 
@stux torbrowser!
↫❦ Noptisun ❦↬@stux Librewolf, a Firefox privacy-oriented fork
Mod@stux i don’t trust Brave, it try to convincing too much on privacy and now i’m suspect them
Ben Ramsey@stux I use Safari on macOS and iOS. For me, it’s the most secure and privacy aware. I love Firefox, but to sync, I have to create an account with them. Brave has a similar problem, and also they’re making some kind of crypto play I don’t understand.
With Safari, I already have an Apple ID, so it doesn’t require a *new* account, and Apple is already storing this information for me in iCloud for syncing, and I trust their security and that they aren’t making money off my data.
Steven@stux https://privacytests.org
As for Brave check the news theres some things u may not like, for Firefox theres custom user.js files for easy modifications for privacy.
But true privacy needs more than just a browser, u need adblocking, script blocking, fingerprint blocking......ugh.
noodlejetski 
Jonathan Sadow@stux I deleted Brave for reasons discussed in this thread-the owner campaigned against gay marriage, is a COVID denier, and its new AI tool will spit back information like "It is widely accepted that the 2020 election was rigged". https://c18.masto.host/@jsadow/110067876716530745
Jonathan Sadow (@[email protected])
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Carl Andreas Myrland@stux I find Firefox/Mozilla to be quite serious about privacy. Built-in Facebook Container to block Facebook trackers. Always calmly advising you to check your privacy settings. And it always just works.
I use Firefox with Duckduckgo as search engine for personal use, and use other browsers for work related stuff.
@cmyrland ah, and Privacy Badger as well, of course.
TerkErJerbs
1dot0@stux Firefox. . It has the killer feature of container tabs. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-use-firefox-containers
It also has the added advantage of not being based on Chromium, which IMHO is good for the internet.
Kneworldodor@stux things are always changing. This is a favorite of mine for privacy and OS Intel information. The podcast is good.
The S Kate M 💛💙@stux chrome is ALWAYS out of the question 🙂
Filip 🌱 🦀@stux go for Firefox, especially since you want to cover a wider range of devices. Brave is basically chromium with addons. Also Firefox (at least on Android) has extensions on mobile as well
Dagnabbit, Pascaline! 💥@stux Firefox always wins for me, plus there are tons of add-ons. I like Brave too, but it comes second.
Joseph Hanson@stux I’d start with Firefox. It all gets political after that. Want to trim it more then use the other forks off that browser.
xeekei 🌐@stux Firefox! It is essentially the only non-chrome-based browser left. I use Brave as a backup tho, a few sites stubbornly expect a chrome-based browser to work properly.
Leisureguy@stux I like Vivaldi a lot; it's built on the Chromium engine, so I get extensions from the Chrome web store. Opera also seemed pretty good — used it a while, but switched to Vivaldi, which I like better.
One nice thing: If a site insists that I allow ads, I can allow ads and still block trackers.
FenoTheFox@stux Librewolf is a fork of Firefox aimed at security and privacy. And it has a sweet blue icon, try it out!
aerotom@stux DuckDuckGo.
Jeroen Baert@stux Firefox + addons is the least bad one, I always say
Reasoning:
Chrome is made by an advertising company
Edge and Safari are made by forprofits
Brave monetizes your attention and has a history of issues and a problematic lead dev
@driesverlinden @stux uBlock on advanced mode, Raindrop for bookmarks, reverse image search, OmegaProxy
Chris Klugewicz@stux I like Firefox, but its mystifying refusal to include tab groups has become a deal-breaker for me. Trying out the new Opera and liking it very much so far.
Mark von Übelgarten@stux
Firefox is a easy win, however if you don't like integration with Mozilla services and want an extra step towards privacy, there is also the LibreWolf fork.
Firefox is a easy win, however if you don't like integration with Mozilla services and want an extra step towards privacy, there is also the LibreWolf fork.
Ari 🏳️⚧️@stux if you want a bit more privacy oriented firefox for android you can check out mull from divest os
Paul Magno@stux I don't know about the best but I really like Vivaldi.
GMate8@stux for desktop I use Mullvad Browser and for mobile Mull
Simon Müller 
@stux Firefox is fine, for a pre-configured, more private experience, check https://librewolf.net
penguin@stux LibreWolf/Mullvad Browser for macOS and Linux. On iOS, I just use Safari with AdGuard and Lockdown Mode.
TheFlomax 
防空識別區ᵒᵘᵗᵉʳᵏᵒˢᵐᵒˢ@stux I use Firefox.
Daniel Tóth 🦄
Albert Kinng@stux These days… it’s very difficult to find a real safe alternative… Only one I can recommend is Tor, honestly. https://www.torproject.org
Ministerofimpediments@stux Firefox for PC (Linux and the token windows laptop I keep around). Partially because it’s something I’m comfortable with…even the annoying bits. Brave did a few weird things I didn’t like (crypto) so I ditched it.
For iOS you might as well use Safari. They put a fair amount of effort into it and all the browsers are safari underneath anyway.
I don’t care if chrome is the “standard” when it started surfacing stuff I browsed in other apps/emails I couldn’t drop it fast enough.
For iOS you might as well use Safari. They put a fair amount of effort into it and all the browsers are safari underneath anyway.
I don’t care if chrome is the “standard” when it started surfacing stuff I browsed in other apps/emails I couldn’t drop it fast enough.
Steve@stux I'm currently trying out Librewolf.
Bytebro 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 🇬🇱@stux Personally, I'd go with Brave on whatever platform.
The minimal stuff they ask to collect is trivially disabled. And I never see ads on YouTube any more for example.
Jarmer@stux Firefox for sure. Brave has all that crypto junk built into it.
Sean C.@stux i was using Ghostery for awhile but back on Safari but using Ghostery ad blocker
grk@stux I’ve switched completely to Brave on desktop and mobile. LibreFox is also nice
Alen@stux I say Firefox, since Tor is based on it and it has all the same options in the config, except for the onion routing
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@stux sadly the only technologically non-chromium bigger well supported browser still has a good chunk of money flowing into it from google. That being said firefox seems like the least of all evils on this front. Containers are a great feature, there are some great cookie cleaning plugins as well (for those cases where you aaccidentally manage to open something in the wrong container, but would like to not have that haunt you forever).
Brave sounded like it could be a good idea at first, but there are so many things there that don't look great. Eich is obviously one, but lets say that's not substantial enough (though I do thinknit is) to decide that the browser is itself bad. But they do actually have the concept of "permitted ads", the whole crypto wallet with their own coin shoved in the browser by default and jumping on the AI hype train for no good reason lately. It just feels like a bad product.
Brave sounded like it could be a good idea at first, but there are so many things there that don't look great. Eich is obviously one, but lets say that's not substantial enough (though I do thinknit is) to decide that the browser is itself bad. But they do actually have the concept of "permitted ads", the whole crypto wallet with their own coin shoved in the browser by default and jumping on the AI hype train for no good reason lately. It just feels like a bad product.
Imperator Nevadicus@stux Read all the comments and know less than I knew when I started. I use Safari in Private Mode with 1Blocker, Wipr, Banish, Hush, Vinegar, and NextDNS. I have no clue if this does anything at all. I don’t see ads anywhere and it feels fast.
Juanjo Salvador@stux Firefox.
That's my main browser on Linux and Android.
Nitin Pai@stux LibreWolf is optimized, Firefox is FOSS good and Safari has been toughened.
Hyde 📷 🖋 
@stux using Librewolf on my side with the minimum addons.
moved to => @@stux i was using firefox for a long time, now im trying to see if vivaldi tickles my fancy again.
tapafon@stux Firefox (telemetry disabled), but Android version is buggy as hell. Or MIUI sucks more?