Fun D-Ticket quirk: None of the ferries on the bodensee are included, however! There are busses that use the ferry and those are included. And you can just get out of the bus on the ship.
every additional dude who replies something like "german bureaucracy 🤷" will get blocked instantly. Unless you have some sort of interesting commentary on who it does and doesn't fail and when, or something.
@nota We used this trick right before the D-Ticket in april. It was cheaper to travel by bus from Konstanz with BW-Tarif & Bahncard than using the Ferry as pedestrian.
@nota In Germany we call this "Verkehrswende". šŸ‘Œ
@albernerHelge @nota Tell me you are a German bureaucrat w/o telling me you are a German bureaucrat 😩
@nota What on earth...
@prefec2 @nota for the locals this makes totally sense as the ferries here are overly crowded with (tourist) cars in summer. Encouraging/incentivising public transport is one countermeasure. Also if you use the bus you can instantly board the ferry (cars might have to wait, at worse for >1h).
@gazebo_c Hm but why not just include passengers (without cars) in the normal public transit tariff, that's the part that feels a bit silly considering the bus is included?
@gazebo_c @prefec2 @nota It still sounds strange to me that having 20 passengers plus a bus on a ferry seems to be preferable to having these 20 passengers without a bus on the ferry, and leaving the bus at the docks. I mean, in the bus, they can't have that much luggage, can they?
@ysegrim @gazebo_c @prefec2 The way I understand it is that there's no special arrangement for the ferry at all. The bus operator, who happens to be public, just pays the ferry operator, which also happens to be public, for a heavy vehicle on the ferry. And like any other vehicle, you can leave it while the ferry is going.
So it's not that they deliberately want to prevent it, it's more that they'd have to specifically enable it.

@prefec2 @gazebo_c @nota @ysegrim Also known in German as ā€žDer Amtsschimmel wiehert mal wiederā€œ.

Translation into English by ChatGPT:
ā€œThe phrase ā€˜Der Amtsschimmel wiehert’ translates to ā€˜The office horse is neighing’ in English. This is a humorous, idiomatic expression that is used to mock bureaucratic inefficiency or absurdity in German-speaking regions.ā€œ

@nota 84 mal geteilt. Hat schon einmal jemand beim entsprechenden Unternehmen nachgefragt, was dieser Blƶdsinn soll?
@Capandrellu @nota Der Fährbetrieb ist beim DTicket nicht dabei. Der Bus löst einen Fahrschein inkl. seiner Passagiere. Merkwürdig ja, besonders absurd eher nicht.
@nota Lohnt sich die Überfahrt nach Merseburg/Konstanz von den Impressionen her ?
Ich bin letztens mim zug nach Konstanz.
@herr_filmkorn Wir haben es nicht bereut, ist nicht großartig anders als Konstanz/Friedrichshafen selber aber die Überfahrt ist schön
@herr_filmkorn @nota ja. Vor allem irgendwo an der Seepromenade in Meersburg zum Sonnenuntergang essen ist schön. Und/oder während Sonnenuntergang rüber. Bei guter Sicht kann man bis zu den hohen Bergen gucken.
@nota German bureaucracy. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø
@nota āš ļø Nicht geprüft, klingt aber interessantā˜ļø: Bodensee-FƤhren sind nicht im Deutschland-Ticket enthalten. Also einfach vorab in den Bus steigen. Kann jemand weiter Detais trƶten?
@na @nota Was für Details vermisst du? Steht doch alles im Ursprünglichen Post :-)
@markusr @nota Dacht an Linienpläne beispielsweise, um eine Überblick zu bekommen.
@na @markusr "bodo-Linien 700, 7394 auch auf der Überfahrt Meersburg–Konstanz"
https://bahnreise-wiki.de/wiki/Deutschlandticket_Geltungsbereich
Deutschlandticket Geltungsbereich – Bahnreise-Wiki.de

@nota @markusr Das sieht gut aus und erhƤlt ja auch noch ganz andere interessante Infos šŸ˜€. Danke!
@nota Schrƶdingers Deutschlandticket šŸ˜„
@nota Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nota oh i took this one once it is really calming tbh

@nota This actually makes total sense. No really:

As far as I know, the ferry is not subsidised. The bus and the D-ticket are. Thus, you only pay full price if you buy your ticket on the ferry.

And before anyone says anything about german bureaucracy: I've seen worse than that outside of Germany.

@nota is this already ticket-hacking?