John GruberJul 7, 2023
Welcome to the EU web:
Show threadSimon B. StøvringJul 7, 2023
@gruber These cookie prompts ruined the web.
Show threadRobertJul 7, 2023
@simonbs @gruber and they didn’t have to. Cookie banners are intentionally designed to get people to click “accept”. The _ethically_ correct thing is to not collect identifying data at all until it is required for your user, then ask. Instead we get this. I spend part of my professional life helping companies suck less in this area. It’s an uphill struggle. Most don’t _want_ to understand. Easier to throw a cookie banner at it and pretend you’ve acted ethically. #privacy #consent
Show threadYury MolodtsovJul 7, 2023

@bratling @simonbs @gruber Because it's kind of important to track people's sign up flows and understand what they're doing? Or run targeted ads to actually fund the newspaper?

It's not like they're running a personal blog here.

Show threadNick TuneJul 7, 2023

@yury_mol @bratling @simonbs @gruber have I understood this correctky?

You’re saying newspapers should be allowed to gather data about their users, without consent, because that’s the only way they can generate sufficient funding (targeted ads)?

Show threadYury MolodtsovJul 8, 2023

@nick_tune @bratling @simonbs @gruber Targeted ads are fine.

https://molodtsov.me/2023/07/why-privacy-is-overrated/

Why Privacy Is Overrated

I’m not against privacy, and I understand why people might not want someone to track web pages or apps they use. But it’s important to remember that there’s a trade-off and be prepared for the outcome.

Show threadTröglödÿtJul 8, 2023

@yury_mol @nick_tune @bratling @simonbs @gruber

no, ads are not fine, ads are torture and needs to be destroyed

if your product isn't viable without manipulation and exploitation it doesn't deserve to exist

Show threadYury MolodtsovJul 8, 2023

@troglodyt @nick_tune @bratling @simonbs @gruber Can you say one coherent statement without false language used to prove your point on an emotional level?

You probably can't.

Show threadTröglödÿt

@yury_mol @nick_tune @bratling @simonbs @gruber

right, so you prefer death to life, emotionless is the obvious ideal existence to you

f off

Jul 8, 2023 at 9:28amWeb