I heard someone describe #Mastodon as social media for people who like #Linux. Now I’m curious. How many of you actually like Linux?

(Please boost! Hoping for a sufficiently large sample size that’s more likely to represent the wider #fediverse.)

I like Linux as a desktop OS.
13.8%
I like Linux as a server OS.
21.2%
I like Linux as both a desktop and server OS.
51%
I don’t like Linux.
13.9%
Poll ended at .
“Actually, it’s GNU/Linux.” If you were planning on replying with that, I just saved you some time. You’re welcome.
@digichelle you didnt say "Um, Actually" so im afraid you dont get any points.
@chrisashtear I couldn’t bring myself to sink that low. I had to draw the line somewhere!
@chrisashtear @digichelle apparently mastodon is social media for dropout subscribers 😉

@digichelle i'll do you one better:

What you're referring to as Mastodon, is, in fact, ActivityPub/Mastodon, or, as I've recently taken to calling it, ActivityPub + Mastodon.

@digichelle "I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."

The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long."

With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.

@digichelle Unless you are into Alpine. =P
Lynnesbian :bune_ylw: (@[email protected])

"i use linux as my operating system," i state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. he swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "actually," he says with a grin, "linux is just the kernel. you use GNU+linux." i don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "i use alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. it's linux, but it's not GNU+linux." the smile quickly drops from the man's face. his body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth as he drop to the floor with a sickly thud. as he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" coolly, i reply "if windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" i interrupt his response with "and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. even if you were correct, you won't be for long." with a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. he lies on the floor, cold and limp. i've womansplained him to death.

Lynnestodon
@digichelle one is free to use non-gnu distributions at any given time if one thinks that disrespecting peoples work and the wish to be credited accordingly is fine.
@digichelle not always, for instance alpine Linux is Linux but not gnu/Linux :D
@digichelle
🤣🤣 Where's my RMS meme when I need it?!?
@digichelle I'm developing my own OS in Rust! It will be POSIX compliant but so far it just prints"Hello World!" and loops. :p
@digichelle This is probably accurate for Hachyderm at least, maybe the wider Mastodon audience is a bit more diverse when it comes to preference of operating system?
@escape Oh yeah, I strongly suspect that the #Hachyderm crowd is full of proud Linux enthusiasts.

@digichelle

Linux is ok but #BSD is better. Try GhostBSD or helloSystem

@mfjurbala I probably should’ve guessed that someone would chime in with some BSD love. 😆

For the record, I’ve played with FreeBSD a little. I have a greater need for a desktop OS, and that seemed to be better suited to serving as a server OS.

In your opinion, is the same true of your recommendations? Genuinely curious.

@digichelle @mfjurbala I think Linux distributions easily win on the desktop, especially laptops. Arch+Gnome+Wayland and a hidpi monitor is a great experience with no hacking and no compromising on wifi capabilities. On servers I prefer FreeBSD.
@markmcb Yeah, GNOME/Linux (openSUSE here) is just a baller of a desktop; I use it 40-60 hours a week, its great, solid, the apps are great, everything Just-Works.
@whitemice @markmcb opensuse could use more attention. (Just like NetBSD) had to sneak in some more shilling for the cause

@markmcb @digichelle

Things are always improving. Wifi works but can't use AX speeds yet. Suspend works on something but not everywhere. Bluetooth is not great.

For me GhostBSD does ehat I need but I do enjoy linux.

Don't know why I picked it but Arch was the first one I tried and seem to go back to.

@markmcb @digichelle @mfjurbala I used to use BSD as a desktop OS back in the eighties before Linux. It was way better than Windows! But pretty much as soon as Linux came out I switched, because it was good enough and ran on cheap hardware.

And then, of course, it very rapidly got better.

@digichelle @mfjurbala Never had problems with running FreeBSD as a desktop. It's only in more recent years where various OSS projects started to tailor their behaviour to features only found in Linux that we all lost something. Started with the whole silliness of dependency on dbus, for example.

@asmodai

I don't port stuff but it does seem like some things have become less portable

@digichelle @mfjurbala I personally think that the statement that "BSD is better than Linux" is, at this point, the most hipster thing that can be said in computing.

Then, of course, the Haiku Daily-Drivers will pipe in with their ironic-bowler hats and make me a liar.

And here I am, sitting in the corner, missing the OS/2 Workplace shell with its "everything is an object" metaphor, drinking a craft pilsner and trying to hide my not-red fedora.

#linux #bsd #OS2BecauseWhyNot

@symbology @digichelle @mfjurbala

Being judgmental
To operating systems?
Wasting energy.

@DopeGhoti @digichelle @mfjurbala
Judgemental is the wrong word. It's more about people proselytizing to other people who are proselytizing to them about the same basic thing. All the while neither of them realizing that both are so entrenched that neither can change their mind.

#OS2IsTheGreatestOperatingSystemChangeMyMind #Linux #BSD

@symbology @digichelle @mfjurbala
Fair, but it was the first word I could think of that fit the meter of a haiku. I wasn't calling you or your post judgmental, for the record; I was agreeing with you (:

@DopeGhoti @digichelle @mfjurbala
I think that all OS arguments should be done in Haiku format.

Except those about Haiku OS, but that's just too on-the-nose. Those should be done in formal sonnet form.

#WillNoOneThinkOfOS2?

@symbology @digichelle @mfjurbala
Or Tanka; I think that would work.

@DopeGhoti @digichelle @mfjurbala
ChatGPT suggests:
In Hiaku's realm thrives,
Elegance whispers in code,
Fluidity reigns.
With grace, it transcends the rest,
Linux bows to Hiaku's best.

#HiakuInTanka

@DopeGhoti @digichelle @mfjurbala

But we all know that OS/2 is best, so:

In Hiaku's realm thrives,
Elegance whispers in code,
Fluidity reigns.
Yet, OS/2 stands above,
Powerful, it claims its love.

@symbology @digichelle @mfjurbala

About OS/2:
I never got to use it;
I did hear good things
On a technical level.
It's a shame it caught not on.

@DopeGhoti @symbology @digichelle @mfjurbala

It's brave men who
Install bare metal OS/2;
It's being mended.

@symbology @DopeGhoti @digichelle

I'm happy as long as you are open to trying new things. I think alternatives and some friendly competition are good for innovation.

There's no universal solution.

@symbology @digichelle

Wait until you find out that I use tcsh

@digichelle

It covers my needs, Wifi6 works but is still a bit buggy and slow, still improving and impressive since there literally 1 or 2 people working on it.

Bluetooth is there but kind of sucks. Suspend/resume works on my laptop but not desktop.

But it's reliable, has rather up to date packages and I really enjoy the community. They're reason that I've been trying to help out with contributions and spreading the word.

But use what works for you, we're not in the business of shaming.

@digichelle @mfjurbala I used to have high hopes for a thing that at one time had the mildly ridiculous name of TrueOS, I think it’s still explained on Wikipedia under that listing. And all my real BSD geek friends, the ones who make me feel like a poser, constantly remind me that MacOS and iOS are no longer, and never really were BSD, and yet…

@digichelle what’s your personal opinion on desktop Linux?

Personally, I love all three major systems but I do find myself enjoying Mac OS more. iMessage on the Mac is a game changer for me. I don’t need to be on my phone once I’m home. I can do everything on my desk

@Cyborg Great question! I’m actually a fan of desktop Linux, for the most part, and the experience is better than ever. If one’s needs are met by it, it’s more than viable as a daily driver.

That said, I prefer the macOS desktop experience, for reasons that are largely personal and subjective. Overall, it strikes me as friendlier and more coherent. But of course, it isn’t perfect. Nothing is.

@digichelle Great answer! And exactly! I think each OS has their best moments and downsides! All depends on someone’s workflow and personal space.

At the current state, I would say the perfect balance would be to own a MacBook for portability (because of the power of the M chips) and a custom-build PC that runs windows and/or GNU Linux for in home desk setups and battlestations.

But of course it is interesting to hear rumors of Microsoft working on their own ships 👀 Can’t wait for that 👍🏽

@digichelle @Cyborg

At work I'm using MacOS but it's missing features KDE had over a decade ago and that infuriates me regularly.

@hittitezombie @digichelle ah interesting! What kind of missing features? Are they mostly desktop customizations? I know Mac OS has limited DE configurations

@Cyborg @digichelle

Not customizations, a decent virtual desktop support would be nice. Even Windows has a better one than MacOS, and KDE is incredibly beyond both with both virtual desktops and activities.

@Cyborg @digichelle I find MacOS extremely user hostile. It keeps popping up accountsd windows demanding my password without explanation. It dumps me onto other screens suddenly in the middle of my work without explanation. It refuses to install open source software that I want to install, and what I can get from homebrew is limited and out of date.

My current MacBook is my first, and definitely my last. Good hardware, horrible software.

@simon_brooke @digichelle yeah, recently MacOS has been enforcing more security in to the user applications and system.

For example on discord, you can only screen share your display with no audio. In order to include your audio, you would need to install a kernel extension through the Mac recovery process and disable full system security.
I know it’s stupid but at least you have the option to disable the security protocols (for now at least) :/

@digichelle I like it as long as you don't have to exchange words and xslx files.
@digichelle I like Linux, but I also use other operating systems; many important apps are not available there.
@ravenonthill That describes my situation as well. I like Linux, but for various reasons, I spend a lot of time using macOS and Windows as well. In the end, it’s about what’s practical for one’s needs, rather than what checks an arbitrary set of ideological boxes.
@digichelle not just ideology, though. Windows comes with built-in malware, and MacOS has a lot of lock-in. But the FOSS community has never taken GUIs seriously (qt is a happy exception), and there are people in FOSS who are apt to pirate commercial apps, so here we are.

@digichelle

I like both, but I don't use it on my desktop at the moment. I always choose Linux for servers.

@Anya_Adora

@digichelle I think you need an "I have no strong opinion" option.
@iancundell Hachyderm caps polls at four options. I would’ve included that or something similar otherwise.