Since July 1 you no longer need a concealed weapon permit to carry firearms in Florida
Ben T. Davis Beach, FL:
A 7-year-old was shot in the head and his grandfather was shot in the hand trying to defend the child
This escalated when the grandfather told people on jet skis they were endangering children
There were 17 mass shootings over the July 4th holiday
This year so far:
360 mass shootings
923 children under 18 murdered
It’s the guns.
🇺🇸
Public: *Constant protesting for gun regulations*
Lawmakers: *Ignore the public*
You: Gee, guess people are A-Okay with gun violence. Do better you guys, sheesh
Zero thought went into your message. Like seriously, sometimes you can just not say what’s on your mind.
Where are the protests?
Where are the people on the street?
Where are the people pushing back in their churches?
Where are the people committed to civil disobedience?
Where are the people occupying their representatives offices?
When I was a kid, you could buy guns made of wax…yummy!
Population control, southern style
America’s obsession with guns is based on an obsession of feeling unsafe. Big macho dudes walking around with guns are big time scaredy-cats. This country needs mass therapy not mass guns
@flexghost
You mention making gun laws more strict too and so many pro gun people get pissed like.. It's sus that they don't agree with needing proper training and handling.
It's clear they want fast easy access guns.
What sucks too is all the anti trans laws in Florida and now they are loosening gun laws 🤕
I am going to continue my mission to get 2A removed, and a new A added that makes bodily autonomy a constitutional right.
#gunfreeliving
#freedomfrommassmurder
#bodilyautonomyforall
#transrights
#queergayrights
#Freedomtopracticejewishritual
@Edelruth How do you plan to enjoy gun-free living when those who break the law keep and bear them, anyway?
@ihavenopeopleskills @flexghost
You just made the argument for destroying guns held outside the law. Thanks for that
Now we just need the laws.
@Edelruth We're circling back to my question: how do you plan to enjoy #gunfreeliving when those who are legally mandated to destroy their guns refuse to do so?
@Edelruth All right. How will you catch the people who refuse to give up their firearms?
@ihavenopeopleskills @flexghost
Astonishingly enough, we do have law enforcement personnel who actually believe in the rule of law. Also, who suffer at the hands of currently law-abiding (depending where you live), and in this scenario, future law-breaking gun owners.
To argue that gun control laws could never be enacted is to argue that there is nothing that can be done to prevent elementary school children from being blown apart.
Not. True.
@Edelruth How do you propose this approach to #gunfreeliving will be enforced? People who have guns illegally don't display them openly unless they're shooting someone.
If they never, ever get used illegally, they are outside of this discussion.
They essentially do not exit.
@Edelruth Not sure I understand you. I understand that your position is that:
Is my understanding correct?
My position is that the US can only attain a reduction in gun deaths to levels in other countries, by radically changing law, and practices around guns.
Starting with the very obvious one, no one has a right to uncontrolled possession of a gun. Obviously. Axiomically.
Would it take a long time to drop American gun deaths to the level of let's say Finland?
Decades, maybe a century.
Are kindergartners worth that time and expenditure?
Yes, they are.
I have skin in this argument, unbloodied, but skin nonetheless.
So here's another position I stand behind:
America has a mass murdered schoolchild issue, because enough Americans vote for that.
And that is the actual problem. Americans cannot separate their romance with guns from the daily reality of their murdering use.
Daily.
God gods, daily.
@ihavenopeopleskills @flexghost
And they will continue to be out there for as long as people shrug, and say, "they are out there", and just give up.
They can be found, gathered up, and destroyed.
Half of America just fainted, but we absolutely should be coming for "your" guns. Those people who do not want to register them, pay a license to use them, prove they are skilled in handling them, you know, like for a car. No one is coming for anyone's car, because rationale safeguards are in place.
@ihavenopeopleskills @flexghost
Oh, I forgot: be insured to own one, and be accountable under law for all injuries caused by them. If it was justifiable defense, the insurance is to cover that.
Do you think gun owners will cooperate with such a plan to find, gather up and destroy them?
Do you think all gun owners cooperate with registration requirements? Mind you, some Canadian provinces had such a hard time with this they simply gave up.
How effective is training, licensure, registration and insurance at preventing vehicle deaths?
Some states already have registration requirements: Michigan does for handguns whose owner doesn't have a Concealed Pistol License. Michigan also has some of the most stringent requirements in the nation to lawfully carry handguns concealed (a law that could have been enforced on the MSU shooter beforehand but wasn't). Defensive Gun Users are frequently sued by the attacker's family, which is why many of us carry insurance from companies such as CCW Safe and U.S. Law Shield.
All laws do is cause impediments to honest people and bust the people whom the system actually finds and bothers to prosecute. The system doesn't bother to enforce the laws they already have.
I think you might even believe your words.
I don't. Not one of them.
Our children don't have to be left to die just because American gun owners are irredeemable.
They are not the evil that you describe here.
I think I am done with our discussion here, because you don't seem to have a point, other than "give up! Just let the children die!"
And I am never going to join you there
@ihavenopeopleskills @flexghost
@flexghost , you keep being looped in. Would you prefer to be dropped out of this conversation?
@Edelruth @ihavenopeopleskills
One of you is in bad faith and immune to facts and is already muted
One of you is a decent person wasting your skills on someone who clearly doesn’t deserve them
Yes please.
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