Brianna WuJul 3, 2023
Women of Mastodon! How do you deal with men talking over you in a professional setting?
Show threadBrianna WuJul 3, 2023

2/ None of my go-tos are great. Interjecting, “can I please finish,” is the best I have. Raising your voice and repeating until they stop is aggressive and bitchy.

Letting them say whatever, totally ignoring, and starting over from the beginning also works but is super bitchy.

Show threadMatt WilcoxJul 3, 2023
@briannawu As a bloke I’m aware I’m not who you’re asking. I would just like to say however that those are not something I’d consider bitchy. If the muppet can’t shut their mouth and be polite, that’s a them problem and they can learn to back off because they can’t behave like that. Disallow that behaviour by making it impossible. Don’t stop talking. You have the ground.
Show threadBrianna WuJul 3, 2023
@mattwilcox I wish we lived in a world where you didn’t lose status for doing that.
Show threadMatt WilcoxJul 3, 2023
@briannawu I wish there was anything to be done that doesn’t amount to “wait for the archaic attitudes to die out because they’re seen as unacceptable”. Sadly, I doubt there’s much you can do from your side of this shit show other than get other men on board. Which suuuucks.
Show threadRufus J. CooterJul 3, 2023

@mattwilcox @briannawu FWIW, as a fellow bloke, here's a bit of 'allyship' that I practice that many seem to find helpful:

When I'm in the room for a man pulling that BS (especially if it's "my" meeting), after 15-20 seconds, I'll cut the dude off w/ an explanation that they're off-topic, the ideas that they're proposing aren't feasible or change the scope of work (or all 3); then, I stop myself short, w/ a big "Oh, terribly sorry, Brianna, we interrupted you! You were saying?"

Show threadMartha Howell

@RufusJCooter @mattwilcox @briannawu
THIS. You will also earn an ally in office politics for life.

This is not limited to men. Senior employees who step in to boost women, particularly young/junior employees, when they are being nullified is the best way of giving back.

Jul 4, 2023 at 1:40amWeb
Show threadRufus J. CooterJul 4, 2023
@MHowell @mattwilcox @briannawu (Probably just another coincidence! But! My department has one of the lowest 'turnover' rates at my org. I think it's been about... 5? 6? years since I've had to interview for a new hire. Anyway! Coincidences!)
Show threadMatt WilcoxJul 4, 2023
@RufusJCooter Yep, that's the thing to do for sure. It just sucks that effective mitigation of ego-driven bad behaviour requires a third party intervention. @MHowell @briannawu