RoHey fedi.
Let's try not to be dickheads to the newcomers this time around, ok?
Let's try not to be dickheads to the newcomers this time around, ok?
Jeff Atwood@Are0h .. except when they're Nazis. Important clarification.
@codinghorror LOL don't be glib. This doesn't really need to be said... unless you're a Nazi.
@Are0h ehhh it kinda does need to be said! out loud! quite a bit! these days especially!
@codinghorror to whom? people you know?
@Are0h to newcomers specifically, as indicated in the original post
@codinghorror Ha, we're gonna agree to disagree as I was talking about people that are already here.
But if you need to tell your people to not be nice to hateful people, do you.
But if you need to tell your people to not be nice to hateful people, do you.
@Are0h I apologize for the misunderstanding, but your post says "let's try not to be jerks to the newcomers", I interpreted it as "greet and welcome newcomers, but also please make sure these said newcomers are not nazis themselves in the process of greeting and welcoming them", I guess this is the problem with short form communication systems. Context is lost or not provided in the first place.
@codinghorror Hm. I'm not sure how you got that interpretation from me saying just don't be a dick to people, but ok.
@Are0h peril of short form communications, my friend. There's a reason why I'm distraught that instant message chat and highly similar systems are ruling the online world (which is pretty much the world) at the moment. We invented paragraphs, short stories, novellas, books.. and blogs.. for a reason.
@codinghorror But... you can do all that here... so...
@Are0h only because this instance overrode the default limit from 500 to some ridiculous number I strongly disagree with. I think it's .. wait for it.. over 9000
@codinghorror But you just advocated for long-form writing?
@Are0h the tools here aren't built correctly for it, and that matters. Like using a shoe to pound in a nail instead of a hammer: https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-php-singularity/
The PHP Singularity
Look at this incredible thing Ian Baker created. Look at it! What you’re seeing is not Photoshopped. This is an actual photo of a real world, honest to God double-clawed hammer. Such a thing exists. Isn’t that amazing? And also, perhaps, a little disturbing? That wondrous hammer is
@Are0h in other words there is a REASON the default is 500 and seting it to some crazily high number is .. possible, yes, but not at all what it was intended for, built for, or even good at.
@codinghorror But features are not static. They can be improved.
Ergo, if you want to be able to communicate better, let's improve the tools.
Ergo, if you want to be able to communicate better, let's improve the tools.
@Are0h oh my friend, I could agree any harder. 👏
@Are0h also we kinda did build that at https://discourse.org for the record. Fully open source. You own all your data. Default CC license. Decentralized. But.. optimized for longform comms.
@codinghorror So you've identified an area for improvement.
@Are0h that's what I do for a living, when it comes to software. And I believe my track record shows I'm decent at it.
Philip Mallegol-Hansen@codinghorror @Are0h FWIW ActivityPub at the protocol level also specifies an “Article” object. Mastodon posts are “Note” objects, with some admins just allowing for quite long ones.
But it’s an expected use case of the protocol that you might send long form articles back and forth.