Craig GrannellIt’s starting to really get to me in the UK how many people are furiously angry about the prospect of more solar on fields when *many actual farmers* are enthusing about how great mixed-use fields can be. (Solar can shade animals and plants. In many cases, it can also be combined with rainfall capture. It’s about making better use of some land, not replacing one thing with another.)
David Cohen@craiggrannell We should offer them a nuclear power station on the fields as an alternative…
@davidbcohen Our MP for a very short time (Truss govt) was in charge of this stuff. From what I can tell, he put more effort than anything into blocking local solar farms his house might overlook. That sums up the NIMBYs really.
emmatonkin@craiggrannell @davidbcohen
I really don't get why it bothers people. But then again I think wind turbines look nice. Managed to enjoy the New Forest for many years with overhead power lines, too - being ignorant forest folk, we just saw the pylons as landmarks back before OFGEM and the visual impact provision project told us they were supposed to be viewed as eyesores.
I really don't get why it bothers people. But then again I think wind turbines look nice. Managed to enjoy the New Forest for many years with overhead power lines, too - being ignorant forest folk, we just saw the pylons as landmarks back before OFGEM and the visual impact provision project told us they were supposed to be viewed as eyesores.
Mark Slater@emmatonkin @craiggrannell @davidbcohen Wind turbines are great. I believe people moaned about electricity pylons when they first appeared, and their brains now mentally edit them out of the view.
They’d rather have coal fired power stations spewing smoke, as long as it’s elsewhere and someone else’s problem. Fuck them - it’s for things like this we need government to take the lead.
@emmatonkin @davidbcohen I like them too. Masts are less nice. Although I imagine when you tell everyone they couldn’t have mobile connectivity they grudgingly accept.
@craiggrannell @davidbcohen
This is true, masts aren't architecturally beautiful. But it could be argued that they beat the obvious alternatives (not having network at all, or having a night sky full of billionaire droppings)!
This is true, masts aren't architecturally beautiful. But it could be argued that they beat the obvious alternatives (not having network at all, or having a night sky full of billionaire droppings)!
ex or current IDF unwelcome@JohnLoader6 @craiggrannell @davidbcohen
Nice! Funny thing though, I looked these up online and the first link I got was the Telegraph moaning "noisy new net zero pylons are marching across the countryside – and the locals are not happy". Apparently they "are noisier than their predecessors, interfere with WiFi and damage the value of homes" (and the Telegraph is also upset that they are Made In China). You just cannot win with infrastructural stuff :-)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/west-country/hinkley-t-pylon-somerset-net-zero-house-prices/
Billy Smith@emmatonkin @craiggrannell @davidbcohen
The same complaints about land-based wind turbines that you hear in the UK right now, were used in the 1600's when they were installing windmills in Holland. :D
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴Have you heard about much more efficient #bladeless #WindTurbines, e.g. from the #Spanish company #Vortex?
@HistoPol @emmatonkin @craiggrannell @davidbcohen
Nice design :D
I'll go digging through the spec sheets later. :D
@BillySmith
Let me know what you think afterwards, if you like.
@HistoPol @BillySmith @craiggrannell @davidbcohen
I love the look of them. They look like the sort of thing future archaeologists will unearth and gaze at for a considerable amount of time before claiming in a loud and confident tone of voice that they must have been the subject of some form of worship.
I love the look of them. They look like the sort of thing future archaeologists will unearth and gaze at for a considerable amount of time before claiming in a loud and confident tone of voice that they must have been the subject of some form of worship.
LOL.
They do look like church towers, don't they?
So you are into archeology as well?
Much better (and smaller) than the conventional ones, though.
@emmatonkin @craiggrannell @davidbcohen living in the country we have local overhead feeds but the house feed was converted from three wires to a cable so it is less noticable. Though it often means the meter is at least 8 feet off the floor so you need a ladder to read it
@JohnLoader6 @craiggrannell @davidbcohen
Oh gosh, while that's sensible visually, I'm glad they didn’t do that for my parents, I can just imagine my mum climbing up to read the meter and discovering wasps or hornets in the thatch :) I can't say I'm not happy about the reduction in "tree brings down power line" scenarios that results from burying local power lines, but when it comes to the high voltage stuff - especially in less touristy areas - it seemed like a very weird choice of priority.
Oh gosh, while that's sensible visually, I'm glad they didn’t do that for my parents, I can just imagine my mum climbing up to read the meter and discovering wasps or hornets in the thatch :) I can't say I'm not happy about the reduction in "tree brings down power line" scenarios that results from burying local power lines, but when it comes to the high voltage stuff - especially in less touristy areas - it seemed like a very weird choice of priority.