David Amadorit appears Valve is banning games with AI generated content or when you can't prove intellectual property or rights to use over the assets in the game #gamedev https://www.reddit.com/r/aigamedev/comments/142j3yt/valve_is_not_willing_to_publish_games_with_ai/
David Lejeune@djlink Interesting if true, but considering Firmament is still on Steam I have some doubts about the veracity of this claim.
@DKesserich maybe they are only checking new stuff, doubt they'll go through the entire existing catalogue unless some complaints.
@djlink still seems pretty sus to me. A full review of the art used in a game is pretty far outside the scope of Valve's approval process, and they don't tend to be this proactive about copyright enforcement (unless it's EXTREMELY blatant), as they don't have the manpower to be.
@djlink the most likely scenario (imo) is that the art in question was generated with a flagrantly limited and identifiable dataset of copyrighted art and Valve went 'hahahaha. No.'
And now this dummy has run to his AI bros and claimed that Valve won't allow ANY AI art.
Aedius Filmania ⚙️🎮🖊️@djlink that's a pretty good news 😍
Dr Jess Birch@djlink Given the devs have no greater claim to own copyright to that content than someone typing prompts into Google Image Search, I could quite understand the stance from Valve. Unless you can show a compatible licence was offered when you 'found' the content you incorporate, why would Valve risk the legal headaches?
Haven't we always had to agree we have the rights lined up before a store accepts to sell our games?
Haven't we always had to agree we have the rights lined up before a store accepts to sell our games?
@shivoa that is part of it yes, that whatever we publish should be something we created or acquired rights to
Levi Bard@djlink Good for them tbh
The Seven Voyages Of Steve@djlink a very sensible stance IMO until this whole area is legally clarified. Most AI models seem to be blatantly ripping off artists without compensation and are just trying to style it out
Dan Johnson@djlink nature is healing
Christiaan Moleman@djlink Good. AI Bros need to get it through their skulls that you cannot use stolen work commercially.
jpelletier@djlink I consider all AAA games released from now on to be using AI even if they don't tout it. Image editing and programming are transitioning hard to it right now. Your image content had to have been the biggest copyright red flags ever.
CM30@djlink This is an interesting setup for dealing with AI generated content in games, though it does make me worry how they might be verifying that. Makes me worry a bunch of artists will be forced to prove their work is their own, especially if Valve’s checks are done automatically.
Theriac@djlink
too little too late - Valve had the opportunity to be an affordable launch point for new games, but let asset flips and worse stodge crowd their market place.
too little too late - Valve had the opportunity to be an affordable launch point for new games, but let asset flips and worse stodge crowd their market place.
Alice Averlong🏳️⚧️@djlink maybe I should email them about that game with a GPL violation in it
@foone there’s probably plenty
segv11@djlink I guess we'll see how far that goes. Would they say no to Bethesda if they ended up using it for an Elder Scrolls or a Fallout? I'm hoping Bethesda won't, but AI content seems not only possible but likely in future story-rich games from large publishers.
Calicosine@djlink Well, that's good.
June 🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵@djlink This is the big issue, right now congress is so far behind that the copyright office is having to really stretch the interpertation of current rules to understand how to approach AI, and its not working. If in the future congress never gets around to this and it is ruled the most conservative interpretation of the current rules apply, which is what valve is using; they will have to be removed anyway since they'll be illeagal. Copyright is like the one part of our law with very very serious teeth for anyone they can catch and is too much risk to play around with.
Babelguppy@djlink This is a difficult line, but important to get ahead of early. (c) was made to protect creators, but as usual, the little ones get screwed. The 2-strike rule seems harsh imo, since it's easy to forget what placeholder assets you used & where you got them. Better to be safe & purchase/find royalty free assets (opengameart.org itch.io humblebundle.com) or pay some 5er for mockups; if you like the style, you can hire them for the final. Participate in the creator community, not plagiarism.
I had something for this…I love this for us.
Shanya (Over at BlueSky)@djlink literal nazi shit can stay, generated art is evil and wrong and is cause for removal.
totally healthy and sane platform the industry is entirely dependent on