Dave Lane 
š³šæSo, fellow US citizens, what do we think about this? https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/13/us-intelligence-report-purchase-americans-personal-data/ And, fellow non-US citizens, what do we think about the implications for the rest of us?
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@lightweight why is anyone surprised by this?
old_tootbrute@lightweight as long as data can be legally bought and sold, this will be a worldwide problem
Jamie Booth@lightweight it's broken in so many ways. Has been for a long time. But this is no worse than the other methods they have to get data. FISA is largely a rubber stamp.
@jamie Indeed. The key thing is that most people in the US think the gov't is above that sort of thing (at least with US citizens) and I'm not sure how many would worry about how non-US citizens are treated. We need to make sure everyone knows how the US gov't is generally duplicitous. (and it's much worse for non-US citizens where the US gov't is concerned).
šÆ Americans get brainwashed pretty hard.
Downes š@lightweight What I wonder is why U.S. intelligence feels the need to buy it. Why can't they just ask for it and have companies turn it over?
That's what our government is doing with Shopify.
Perhaps that's the big objection to TikTok: they're not sufficiently commercially minded with requests from their government.
Old Fucking Punk@lightweight Well..as long as they're being fiscally responsible about it. I'd hate to see this get the budget out of balance. #sarcasm
Roberto Santos@lightweight honestly, as a Brazilian citizen, who saw my own president being spied by NSA, Iām not surprised at all.