@mastodonmigration I am not aware of any secret deals with Meta. As far as I can tell people are just making stuff up. There is little to comment on until Meta's platform launches.

@Gargron @mastodonmigration and this from Meta itself ? Any comment?

@Gargron @mastodonmigration @Chimaera What they do with the ActivityPub protocol is up to them... That announcement they have there wouldn't need any instance admins working with them; they can easily develop their own way of being part of the fediverse.

@chiasm @Gargron @mastodonmigration Meta also has a long history of consuming any company they see as a competitor. See Instagram, WhatsApp

@Chimaera @chiasm @Gargron @mastodonmigration not really possible to consume Mastodon as a whole. They can federate through ActivityPub, and that seems to be the extent of what they’re doing. No idea what they’d be talking to some instance admins about.

@dostalcody @chiasm @Gargron @mastodonmigration well this admin said no thank you. Sounds a lot like an invitation to a secret meeting https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836

@dostalcody @chiasm @Gargron @mastodonmigration also the phrase Embrace, Extend, Extinguish has been brought up

@Chimaera @chiasm @Gargron @mastodonmigration of course it has. But since mastodon is fully open source and has tons of instances, the most they can do is become the biggest instance, which they will be. Not much more they can do IMHO.

@dostalcody @Chimaera @chiasm @Gargron Yes, we are instances, but we are also a community. When something big and disruptive happens to a community it is best faced with communication and proactive planning. Of course, there are guardrails, but we don't want to have to rely on them. Let's try to steer this down the center of the road.

@mastodonmigration @Chimaera @chiasm @Gargron I do agree with you. I’m not trying to say no one has a right to be concerned. Absolutely we can be concerned and it’s absolutely okay to speak with your instance admins. But I don’t think we should approach with a combative stance or otherwise imply all of them are doing wrong. Healthy communication about this is needed. I’m not a fan of Meta coming in either. I see nothing good coming from it. I also don’t agree with immediately defederating them. My opinion is we should let them try to be a good member of the fediverse. The moment they show they have no plans to be, that’s when we can defederate. I also understand many won’t agree with this stance and I’m completely ok with that as well. I think each instance should see what their members want, and go with that.