Activity Pub? Like, there's coloring books and shit to do while you drink? I'm in.

@the_etrain

Somebody suggested that we should stop saying "instance" and start saying "pub"

The federation drama becomes all about if members of pub x can get in the door at pub y, or if they have to go out and join a different pub to get in

And the "don't let your local become a Nazi bar" story just slots right into the metaphor

@trochee @the_etrain hearty applause

@danilo @the_etrain

the biggest problem I see with big servers is that their open admissions policy and huge unmoderated userbase makes them the equivalent of a mall TGI Fridays

they have to serve the same policy to the entire franchise, which gives local bartenders a much tougher time kicking out the "well-behaved" fash when they arrive

Genuinely local pubs can have an opinionated, pissed-off bartender who just says "get out" and reaches for the bat as soon as they clock a Nazi

@danilo @the_etrain

Correspondingly, the "big pub"/TGI Fridays has to be extra-bland, because behavior that bothers any franchisee will get banned for all franchises

No extra-spicy breakfast tacos in Austin, no sushi rolls at the bar in Ballard, no punk shows on Tuesdays in Flint.

You might not like those things either — but if you like _one_ of them, you're better off finding the "pub" that matches _your_ idiosyncrasies

A federation of small pubs is healthy. Join the Rebellion

@trochee @danilo @the_etrain I like that idea, but have no way to find one that matches my idiosyncrasies, and, I guess you’d call it “bar hopping”, would leave my posts strewn across several or many instances

@ShadSterling @danilo @the_etrain oh i hear that for sure

So, this is a clear need from the Fediverse -- a guide to help you find your local with at few hops as possible

@trochee @danilo @the_etrain I don’t think we need a guide as much as we need a search tool with a set of filters. Unfortunately the filters would need to include ruling out instances according to who they won’t let me follow or be followed by, which AIUI would be a challenge

@ShadSterling @danilo @the_etrain

Oh, i think that "who you _can_ follow from here" is important, but as a fast follow after a basic sanity check based on a guide like #TheBadPlace

Any guide should be guiding new users _away_ from pubs that DON'T kick out the egregious fash

@trochee @danilo @the_etrain sure, having a default filter for some baseline blocklist subscriptions or similar makes sense, but I also want to know about things like max post length and how many admins have to flake out for the instance to disappear and moderation rules about CWs and which other instances have defederated them, and so on… not sure what the minimum useful would be, but I don’t have the spare capacity to try to build it myself