If you are a white leftist and you talk “both parties are the same they are both capitalist” you will loose most of your black audience. I think it ought to be obvious that this isn’t because blackfolks love Democrats (in most cases, there is always someone being simple in any group) —no. it’s because the difference between the parties is material and obvious and these are unstable times.

When I hear such talk I wonder if the speaker is working on voter suppression.

@futurebird

Ralph Nader did this! We got GWB as a result. Then the Bernie bros in 2016.

It's a deeply ingrained, dangerous ignorance.

@CartyBoston @futurebird Ah, now, careful with falling into the trap of blaming the left for what the right did.
Nader should have been a lesson learned that third-party doesn't work without electoral reform but Republicans stole the presidency.

https://web.archive.org/web/20181115220042/https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/11/15/its-insanity-how-brooks-brothers-riot-killed-recount-miami/

‘It’s insanity!’: How the ‘Brooks Brothers Riot’ killed the 2000 recount in Miami

Eighteen years after blazer-clad GOP operatives pressured Miami-Dade election officials to end the recount, debate still rages over whether their antics went too far.

Washington Post
@cat_static @CartyBoston @futurebird I'll never stop being amazed at how few people know anything about the Brooks Brothers Riot. It was a turning point that allowed a presidential election to be stolen, and the news media yawned and moved on

@liquor_american @CartyBoston @futurebird I doubt it's a coincidence the same players are running the same playbook today.

"Perhaps the most famous operative on the scene was Nixon’s “dirty trickster” himself: Roger Stone.
In a 2008 New Yorker profile, Stone claimed he had been recruited by none other than James Baker III, the former secretary of state leading the Bush recount team, and that it was Stone’s idea to court protesters via Cuban radio."

Disrupting the Ballot Count 2000/2020

Twenty years ago, the United States Presidential election was undergoing a crisis. On Election Night, November 7, 2000, the nation waited with bated breath as Florida was first announced for Democrat...

THE VOLUNTOWN PEACE TRUST