nixCraft 🐧

THIS IS AMAZING!

Smartphones Must Have User-Replaceable Batteries by 2027 in the EU zone https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-replaceable-batteries-by-2027 I think Companies like Apple, Google, and Samsung will next create two versions of their phones—one for the EU with replaceable batteries and one for the rest of the world. They go to lengths to ensure they can squeeze extra dollars out of everyone while following laws. Just give everyone an option to replace batteries 🔋

EU: Smartphones Must Have User-Replaceable Batteries by 2027

The European Parliament just caused a major headache for smartphone and tablet manufacturers.

PCMag
Jun 20, 2023 at 2:01amWeb
Show threadnixCraft 🐧Jun 20, 2023
iPhones in China have two physical sim cards. No one gets those outside China. It will be nice to have such a phone while traveling, but Apple creates multiple versions to meet the demands of local laws. I think that is a nice feature to have. It is sad that they don’t sell that model outside China
Show threadferricoxideJun 20, 2023
@nixCraft

SIMs have mostly been replaced by eSIMs or their successors and some even have dual ones.

https://www.androidpolice.com/dual-esim-pixel-7/
Show threadCompuguy 🐱Jun 20, 2023
@ferricoxide @nixCraft Cool! Now will that come to the Pixel 6 and 6 pro? 🤔
Show threadSamantaz FoxJun 20, 2023
@ferricoxide @nixCraft Maybe in the US, but definitely not in all countries! Physical SIMs are still present in the vast majority of phones in my country (France).
Show thread𝕃𝕦𝕔𝕒𝕤Jun 20, 2023
@nixCraft Same soon with removable battery after the EU ruling. Anyone outside of EU prob won't be able to by them from Apple or mobile carriers
Show threadBrainJun 20, 2023
@nixCraft can you use it outside China?
Show threadbazcurtisJun 20, 2023
@nixCraft They have also down it in the Middle East where using VOIP used to be illegal
Show threadLilkev🌛Jun 20, 2023
What does "user-replaceable" mean in this context? Does use of a screwdriver count as "user-replaceable" or does this law require a battery cover that you can take off by hand, without any tools?
Show thread***Dave Hill 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇨🇦🇬🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Jun 20, 2023
@nixCraft I think they will all do the financial analysis and determine which way they make the most money and do that. If that's separate models, or single models, that's what they'll do. What customers would like is secondary or tertiary, unless it impacts sales, which it probably won't.
Show threadThoralf Will 🇺🇦🇮🇱🇹🇼Jun 20, 2023

@nixCraft I do not like this, at all.

I don’t want to replace my battery.
I want my battery to last. 5 years, at least.

This legislation will achieve the opposite and paves the way for batteries that are just crap and need replacement after 12 or 18 months.
The companies have no motivation to make better batteries, protect them better against premature degradation.

Sounds good, but generates a lot of trash.

Show threadFrank O'DwyerJun 20, 2023
@thoralf @nixCraft yes the more I think about it the worse an idea it sounds. Many people will immediately have 2 batteries at least and the amount of waste will increase. People will replace batteries too early also. Besides, the phones already have replaceable batteries just not by the consumer.
Show threadFrank O'DwyerJun 20, 2023
@thoralf @nixCraft also no two batteries will be alike. You won’t be able to use the batteries you have with your new phone, etc
Show threadNerdRelaxoJun 20, 2023
@nixCraft No, all phones are going to be dust- & waterproof, because those devices are excluded from this obligation.
Show threadadingbatponder  👾Jun 20, 2023
@NerdRelaxo @nixCraft well spotted. so pointless rules made by pointless bureaucrats
Show threadIch bins dochJun 20, 2023
@nixCraft there is a loophole, if the device is water resistant , the battery must not be replaceable
Show threadJDSJun 20, 2023
@nixCraft what I miss most about removable phone batteries was knowing my phone was actually off.
Show threadMartin BeJun 20, 2023
@jds @nixCraft Damn true! 👍
Show threadAlison CreeksideJun 21, 2023
@jds @nixCraft
Same. I used a Blackberry Bold for 12 years - it had a replaceable battery that I never needed to replace.
Show threadسیبزمینیJun 20, 2023
@nixCraft i dont even think by 2027 we will have smartphones as todays definition.
Show threadThomas Frans 🇺🇦Jun 20, 2023
@nixCraft The question now becomes: how standardized will these batteries be? If they are standard, it would be incredibly positive for our environment as you could keep using your phone for years and years. If they are non-standard, then the manufacturers still have all the power over when you will buy a new phone.
Show threadUser01Jun 21, 2023
@nixCraft
I really hope the new battery replaceable phones will be available in the US. Not that I use apple, but it would really help those that do. One can hope! ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯