Jellyfin, we are moving away from Reddit and we are pleased to announce our new forum!

https://lemmy.one/post/245835

Jellyfin, we are moving away from Reddit and we are pleased to announce our new forum! - Lemmy.one

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/642061 [https://beehaw.org/post/642061] > official twitter announcement > https://twitter.com/jellyfin/status/1670589982665322496 [https://twitter.com/jellyfin/status/1670589982665322496]

Also being discussed in the Jellyfin Lemmy (which has some unofficial dev participation): https://lemmy.ca/post/749294
damn that's gross
Congrats, that’s the kind of mentality that will make me move from Plex to Jellyfin tomorrow evening :)
Same here! I am going to complete the full transition by EOD!
I couldn’t be happier having made the move off of plex to jellyfin a couple years back. Plex is basically dead to me since they made their move into enshittification. Jellyfin is perfect! Works great never crashes etc.
I'm out of the loop, what's going on with plex?
From what I remember from the last time I opened it, they added streamed content with ads. That's the only thing that seemed weird to me. I think they started charging for streaming content outside of the house as well, but I only ever used it to stream from my PC to my TV.
I stream from my server at my parents' place all the time. No charge. Though I did buy a lifetime pass several years ago.

As the others said below, a while back (several years at this point I think?) they decided that instead of improving their core product, they were going to move the entire business model into a really shitty version of free streaming apps. Like the ones that come preloaded on "smart" tvs full of ads and tracking.

They had an extremely long laundry list of bugs and feature requests from LONG TIME users (like me) but decided to ignore them and instead completely destroy their apps with shit.

All the sudden you login to your plex app and it's FILLED with all sorts of content you have no idea where it came from - it's not on your server, etc...

Which is all just sad, because as time passes, they'll just die off and be looked at the same as any other free shitpile streaming app full of ads, instead of what they once were: a really good home media library manager.

I've been wanting to make the jump for awhile and I've used jellyfin as a secondary server on my library to test run it. I really enjoy it for a lot of reasons but need to properly figure out reverse proxy before I implement it as my main.
Check their documentation, should be all there you need.
Last time I used it, it really struggled with subtitles, especially anime subs. Right now I just use plex for media management and Kodi on all my devices to watch stuff via a Kodi addon.

The only thing with jellyfin is the constant subtitle issues for years that are very difficult to resolve I guess and inconsistent across different apps. That and sorting of non movie/show content and not respecting folder view.

Other than that, it's pretty much perfect!

Have you checked in their new support forum? Maybe we can make some noise there and get these issues some awareness!
Is there something similar to plex passes for Jellyfin? That's the only thing holding me back.
Yes. That's kind of the point of it... think Emby, but some of the Emby devs didn't wanna sell out, so they made their own open source version...
Technically yes. But you have to set it up yourself/it's more technical, manual and involved.

Woohoo!

Also, time for them to start posting to Mastodon!

They have a Mastodon account. They post there.
But can you make a lemmy.world feed as well. Having one place to go for everything is better than 100 places.
Eh I see no reason to have support discussions in Lemmy. Leave Lemmy for promotions, updates, and sharing content.

I think that's the point. They are not in 100 places, they are in one. If you want support about Jellyfin, you go to Jellyfin. It was always kind of stupid with Reddit.

I need support with Jellyfin, so I go to Google, write my query, add Reddit at the end, go to result that may or may not be related, try to discover the difference between the 3 or 4 different but related subreddits to find out which one is the official. Discover that none of them is. Find another sub about cutting cable. There's a vague answer that's similar to your issue but not exactly. Maybe try asking them directly on Twitter.

Now you just go to jellyfin.org and the forum is right there, search there for your issue or write your answer. All in one single official place that is looked at and maintained by the very same team. It's just better overall

As someone who had to Google a bunch of docker issues and constantly got redirected to locked down subreddits, I'm all for developers hosting their own communities. At least then they have an incentive to keep the communities alive.
just as long as it's not a shitty scenario such as using discord where the information is 1. not publicly searchable because it's stuck behind a login page, and 2. even though technically discord has a search function, good luck finding what you're looking for
Chats are not forums. Discord is the same bullcrap than Reddit and Facebook, just newer on the enshittification cycle. People should just have forums and someone could make a containerized microservice that federates it to Activity Hub. Now it's searchable, indexable, publicly available and archivable.

Absolutely agree that hiding knowledge behind a paywall is crappy. I hit that issue so many times with Red Hat that I standardized on debian variants.

Searching, while a function of any modern forum, is easily bypassed with a modern search engine / crawler. Unless the forum admin takes the unlikely step of disabling web crawlers on their site, you can pass the site:<website> filter into your search. For example: duckduckgo.com/?q=subtitles+site%3Aforum.jellyfin… shows forum posts regarding subtitles.

subtitles site:forum.jellyfin.org at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

Says “no fee, no tracking, no hidden agenda”

Yet somehow they are offering this for free? How exactly are they keeping themselves supported?

That is (jelly)fishy..

I am going to downvote you because you put zero effort in understanding that they are offering only the software as free software, not hardware or streaming in any form
I get the desire for a centralized location but I was hoping Lemmy would be the spot. Forums just seen so fragmented, it's nice to go to one place to see all the discussion instead of having several subpages which honestly have little action. https://lemmy.ml/c/jellyfin seemed like the best replacement for r/Jellyfin
I totally agree with you! Why didn't they just hosted their own Lemmy instance???

Probably for similar reasons as to why they moved from Reddit. Also configuring their own instance to approximate a traditional forum would honestly kind of undermine the whole point of using Lemmy or the like to begin with (at least imo).

I understand the sentiment of wanting them to to make their stuff easier to follow & post to from here and other places in the Fediverse, but from what they wrote, I get the sense that this format simply isn't what they were ever looking for in terms of fielding discussions/questions. Their move to Reddit was more of a compromise for where they were at with the project at the time, but now that Jellyfin's more developed in terms of the software and community, a forum is a more workable prospect.

Lemmy's moderation tools are severely lacking and they seemed to want to get away from the rank by voting system and the churn created by older but relevant and active discussion being hidden on Reddit and Lemmy.
Add on user purge behavior and the headaches that causes. Can't count the number of times I've been looking into an issue and came across a two year old reddit thread where the solution had been deleted. Much less likely to happen on a dedicated forum.
My gripe with old school forums is that there isn't really any threading for comments. Makes it hard to keep up with things
Agreed, I never understood why the discourse developer hates threading.
Some forums have nested comments. It depends on the software.
The problem for me with forums is I dont want to create an account and have separate bookmarks for every single topic I am interested in. I'll probably just stick with [email protected]
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I'm so happy that they aren't using Discourse.

Genuine why?

Discourse is implementing ActivityPub as a plugin, they should be able to federate soon.

Discourse is centralized and proprietary, so it has all the same inherent fatal flaws as Reddit (and Twitter and Facebook)
Uh? Discourse is open source, you can just get the code and install it on your server.
And why are they still on Twitter ?! Its not credible...
Probably to broadcast announcements.
Maybe... If they wanted to create an announcement effect, they could have simply stuck to their website or Mastodon etc... Posting on Twitter (!!!) the fact that they're reacting so harshly to the Reddit case...for me it doesn't make sense...
Dude, they want people to know, so they go to where people is. This is not field of dreams, if you build it no one will come unless you tell them where to find it. Try to relax a little, they do have a Mastodon and even have a Matrix instance bridged to Discord. They engage on Lemmy as well. Just, breathe deeply and put the toxicity away.
I'm relaxed, thanks, no toxicity here, just a reflection on using closed networks to promote free software...
Hooo, time traveling to the 90s I see. Very vintage
Yeah it's a pity they didn't set up their own lemmy instance, that way every other lemmy instance could get the content...
They should just federate, they don't need to use Lemmy to have it viewable from Lemmy/Kbin
just setup my lemmy acct. I do have a mastodon one tho. How find masto communities here, and vice versa?
Only one question remains: will it federate
I was just thinking that common forum software implementing ActivityPub would be a great way to link all of these disparate web forums that are still active and have useful content.
They honestly should use a modified version of lemmy

The problem is a forum Is genuinely different than a Reddit/Lemmy board, where each forum thread can remain indefinitely alive and useful, while a reddy/Lemmy post is designed to decay with time.

It would have to be heavily modified

You kind of can with wordpress and the AP plugin. it works with bbpress --maybe not perfectly yet, but it's a start.
@Kurt Would have been great if it would have been federated
Glad to hear! Welcome home lads.
They’re not moving to Lemmy, if that’s what you’re welcoming them to.