There are a few dozen neurons in the bellies of crabs. They control the grinding motions of the stomach.
I would like to see a machine replacement for these neurons that functions just as well as the natural ones before anyone hooks anyone else up to an uploading anything.
Just ... someone please show we can understand how neurons even do things.
It's like building an autonomous drone before you know how to make a paper airplane. (in fact it's much worse than that)
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@futurebird But that isn't exciting enough to get the attention of the press or, more importantly, investors.
And mind uploading is bunk and will always be bunk. I suspect it's a carrot on a stick to be dangled in front of investors forever, since it'll never actually be reached but the promise of immortailty is too good for some people to pass up so they'll keep dumping money into it indefinitely.
@linebyline @futurebird "will always be" seems like a stretch with no justification.
Are we centuries too early at best and all utterly fucked though? Almost certainly yes.
@linebyline @futurebird That's largely irrelevant though.
Without some sort of metaphysical shenanigans being involved, a functionally perfect copy is basically indistinguishable from the original.
And those ways by which it may remain distinguishable hardly matter if they do not affect functionality.
i think it's more like, for decades we have been shown, told, and sold a narrative about "the future", and our world has been built around this narrative of making fictional ideas real instead of solving already existing, real problems.
the capitalists aren't asking how they can reduce atmospheric pollution by not creating it, but instead how they can make profit by continuing business as usual but putting some duct tape and chicken wire around the problem so they can pretend it's fixed. first it was "carbon offset credits", now it's "how can we invent wacky new things and make profit from selling them to polluting corporations?", because part of the way the rich stay rich is by paying each other to be rich.
@futurebird this. The largest neural network models have roughly the same number of "neurons" as an insect, but instead of building them to do simple insect-like things, we're pressing them to replace jobs requiring human judgement and reasoning.
(yes, I'm aware that the analogy of artificial neural networks to biological ones is crude)
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