domination is inevitable
We are now at 28.5K users (see https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list [https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list]). The top 10 instances also got a decent boost in user count. With the exception of beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] which defederated, the Fediverse is thriving 🔥
If I'm honest, I've not yet discovered hugely different features. My understanding is that kbin allows more integration with the non-threadiverse bits of the Fediverse (for example, Mastodon) than Lemmy, but so far I've not made use of that. Kbin is also newer and therefore seems a bit rougher around the edges, but that will pass.
What initially drew me to kbin was more not wanting to get dragged into the tankie noise around Lemmy, but as the number of instances have grown that seems to have become less of an issue.
What I will say for kbin though is that Ernest (the kbin developer, who also runs the kbin.social instance) seems quite nice and is very responsive and transparent with the community.
Yeah. People struggle with the idea of "independent websites" when you can view posts from them on other websites.
And when there isn't a hedge find backing them.
This exchange right here, sir.
Wholesome. Thank you.
Nope. I've never actually directly been to the site.
I just stumbled into Mastodon last April to watch people flee Twitter, and fell in love with the whole distributed social concept.
The Internet was a digital anarchist space when I first encountered it in the 90s, and that's what I want it to be again. And the right to disengage is tied up in that.
A server has every right to run however they want. I agree.
What I have a problem with are the server discovery tools and sites still listing beehaw as if it is participating in the fedeverse the same way as all of the other truly open servers.
But if you're not on their site, they're not responsible to you. They are responsible to their local community.
They maybe could have spared your admin the courtesy of a "if you can't control this right now, we'll have to defederate" email or something, but if the tools aren't there to keep up, they're not there.
I was on beehaw too. I'm not happy with the defederation but I understand.
I left but I'm happy it's great if it's working for them. This is why a federation is great, there is option for everyone.
On these types of forums I always figure if I forget my password then it's time to make a new account anyway.
Nothing I post here is essential to me, and I can always find past exchanges from any random account.
And personally, I figure the longer I post under a single persona, the easier it is to connect that persona to my real identity. So account switching is good every once in a while.
Rather, more instances, not servers. An instance can scale out using as many servers as the owner can tolerate.
I certainly wouldn’t want to be the one managing a horizontally scaled fediverse instance on a cloud platform though, that shit adds up fast, and no way in hell is anyone going to donate here.
I honestly don’t get how that’s supposed to work indefinitely, that’s usually where as money comes in and… god dammit we’re back to square one lol. I’m here for a good time, not a long time 😎
@econpol @corytheboyd i wonder what makes anybody think nobody will donate, quite a few fedi servers manage to survive off of donations
i think a couple of fedi servers are semi-private with paid accounts on a subscription basis, too
Mostly the pessimist in me talking about the general case. Getting many people to pay for something that is free somewhere else is an uphill battle.
When the service is good enough, I don’t at all mind throwing in ~$5/month. Example services like that I pay for: Fastmail, Bitwarden, Mullvad
Doesn’t mean it can’t work, and success is much easier at small scale (like you said, paid private).
I'm new here but if I stick around long enough I'll probably get up my own server/instance(s) for the various parts of the fediverse I participle in. Mostly because it sounds neat and partially because it would allow other people I know to have a fediverse "home" operated by a familiar face (if the fediverse gets popular among the mainstream).
Right now it's just Lemmy, but I may eventually participate in Mastodon, Matrix, Peertube, Owncast and.
I'm going to wait first though to see if the Lemmy userbase (and platform) remains healthy and/or grows. Then would come the hard part of setup, I'm familiar with technology, but nowhere near a professional or a hobbyist (unless you count gaming).
There is nothing wrong with having ads on a server. A server / instance should monetize itself like crazy if they want to. If users don't like it, they now have options! They're not stuck in a place like reddit.
That's why I'm so excited by federation.
I've said it before, but I really think that "Reddit Gold" was an excellent non-invasive monetization strategy.
Gold didn't really do much but put a little coin above a comment, and it supported the site for a long time without having to pump in advertising, which many people would block anyway.
I gilded a total of 3 times maybe, over the years. And that $12 or whatever was way more than Reddit ever got out of me from ads, since I block them all.
Kbin was having trouble federating for a while there due to the traffic but the admin has fixed most of the issues so all is well now.
I still bounce between kbin.social and lemmy.world though cos why not!
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