flynnstoneJun 17, 2023
Technology Connections

I never tooted about this but Consumer Reports picked up on my video and made a more professional stink about my car's brake lights!
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/brake-lights-can-fail-to-provide-fair-warning-on-some-evs-a9533519285/

And now! Hyundai just announced they will do a "field service campaign" to fix the issue starting in July. Yay!

Brake Lights Can Fail to Provide Fair Warning on Some Electric Vehicles

In Consumer Reports' tests, the brake light on some Genesis, Hyundai, and Kia EVs donโ€™t always illuminate as the vehicle decelerates during regenerative braking.

Consumer Reports
Jun 16, 2023 at 7:50pmWeb
Show threadMr LeastJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify This is the kind of influencer I can get behind! Well done, you!
Show threadAlan JamesJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify that's awesome!
Show threadMattJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify thatโ€™s amazing. Great work!
Show threadZperrettaJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify HOLY SHIT that's awesome! Good job
Show threadtigJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify hurrah congratulations!
Show threadpenguin42Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Well done!
Show threadkadse Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify woah :O that's awesome!
Show threadtelnetlocalhost ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify alright but when are they picking up on your videos painting led christmas lights? That's the real dilema that we need consumer reports on.
Show threadTechnology ConnectionsJun 16, 2023
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Show threadFiXatoJun 16, 2023
@telnetlocalhost hahah, glad I'm not the only one who had that thought ๐Ÿ˜‚
@TechConnectify excellent news! Congrats!
Show threadSylvhemJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Congrats!
Show threadOverclocked AndyJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify that is quite amazing!
Show threadTobiasJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Yay for raising awareness!
Thank you!
Show threadะบะฐะดะผั–ะนJun 16, 2023
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Show threadJEBโ„ขJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Honestly, I'm glad this picked up some attention. I picked up a Hi5 myself recently, and haven't used i-Pedal mode at all because of the concerns presented.
Show threadAnderson SilvaJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify
Show threadst3ph3nJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify result! My Kia EV6 looks forward to the same updateโ€ฆ
Show threadEniko (moved โžก gamedev.place)Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify using your powers for good
Show threadAndrew ChernauskasJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Nice! ๐Ÿ‘
Show threadJason Parker (he/they)Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify I saw a truck recently that had mind-blowing brake lights which made me immediately think of you. It was a fuel tanker and the back side of the tank was entirely surrounded by a large ring that lit up when braking. It was quite impressive.
Show threadTed M. YoungJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Hallelujah! I've almost hit the EV in front of me enough times that I now give them a much bigger space, cuz it's such a surprise when they slow down and no brake lights are on!
Show threadStyxJun 16, 2023

@TechConnectify prรฉcise and justified complaints that create a real improvement !

Great job
You're the break lights guy know !

Show thread[email protected]Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Excellent! Next stop... heat pumps being mass adopted (and maybe US households having kettles ;) )
Show threadRobin CapperJun 16, 2023

@TechConnectify Great news, pity they didn't pick up the brake lights as turn indicator one too!

(a are sight here in NZ but think of you when see classic US cars doing it)

Show threadRhaedasJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify That video was solid work to prove your case, glad it's being taken seriously and addressed.
Show threadBrian CampbellJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Hey, nice! I just picked up an Ioniq 5 a month or two ago, and I love the i-pedal mode, but I was kind of horrified to learn about this brake light issue; I had assumed the lights would turn on based on the torque command or deceleration. Thanks for calling attention to this!
Show threadBrian CampbellJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Now if we could only do something about the jerk when switching between levels; I really wish it were smoother when using the paddles to change regen braking levels.
Show threadBruce Gilson๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆโœˆ๏ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Brilliant news :)
Show threadjoel bJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify as a motorcyclist who occasionally has to use the street I really appreciated your spotlight on this dangerous problem.
Show threadJack Yan (็”„็ˆตๆฉ)Jun 16, 2023
@robincapper I was thinking: do you ever take your foot off the brake when the car is stationary? I do a lot, at traffic lights when Iสผm in front and have the clutch in after shifting into first. I thought it would be obvious that the car isnสผt moving.
Show threadRobin CapperJun 16, 2023
@jackyan this is about the brake lights not illuminating when the car is regen only 'braking'. TC could decelerate his Ionic from hwy speed to 0 with at a decent rate (0.2g from memory) without any brake light activation
Show threadJack Yan (็”„็ˆตๆฉ)Jun 16, 2023
@robincapper I know, I watched his old YouTube video. But the linked article suggests that for Mercedes-Benz, the brake lights should be engineered so they are always on if the car is stationary (presumably when the ignition is on). And that seems like overkill because there are plenty of situations where itสผs obvious the car is stationary.
Show threadRobin CapperJun 16, 2023

@jackyan But yes, also do that sometimes. I also use in gear lift off engine braking and 'look ahead' gapping to avoid needless start/stop, gear changes, & braking in motorway nose/tail traffic too.* Suspect it's a lot less aggressive than electric regen braking but haven't got much driver experience of that.

* Why I see little advantage of having an auto in commuter runs

Show threadJack Yan (็”„็ˆตๆฉ)Jun 16, 2023
@robincapper Makes sense, I do this as well. Regen is good, and you can set it to be less aggressive, almost (but not quite) apeing engine braking.
Show threadmykieJun 16, 2023

@TechConnectify just think, it took HUNDREDS of TikToks to get Hyundai/Kia to do something about the fact that their cars could be stolen with a USB cable

But only ONE Technology Connections video

That ain't nothin'!

Show threadtang0008Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify folks, you live to see it
Show threadiaian7Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Amazing!!!
Show threadBen GolusJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify A curious thing I've noticed is there's been a handful of occasions where I've had to slam on my breaks when following behind a Tesla because they slowed significantly w/o showing break lights, so even the accelerometer based method isn't flawless.
Show threadBen GolusJun 16, 2023

@TechConnectify When I've mentioned this elsewhere I usually get a handful of Tesla-hards jumping down my throat about me being wrong and demanding proof.

Sorry, I don't have a dash cam. Though Tesla break lights are so small and dim it is plausible it's just because I couldn't see them when they're being illuminated by sunlight. But that's a different issue.

Show threadFLEEECYJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Your work is much appreciated! Iโ€™m still waiting on my IONIQ 5 preorder from January 2022 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ so maybe my car will be fixed day 1 ! ๐Ÿ˜Ž You may have saved quite a few people from a lot of trouble sir. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Show threadStringdomJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify and peole say complaining doesn't get stuff done. If we don't speak up, how are others gonna listen?
Show threadJeff WardJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify as a fellow Ionic 5 owner thank you for your service.
Show threadChris ADJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Well done!
Show threadDreadmacJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify
Show threadAvi FlaxJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify well done!!!!
Show threadBill KingJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify congrats!!
Show threadMarc LepageJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Excellent!
Show threadร–lbaumJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify @eniko Look at that, thereโ€™s a regulation in the EU for what deceleration should require the brake lights to turn on, but not in the US. Colour me surprised.
Show threadJake AverillJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Nice work! It's good to know that some companies listen to their customers and actually care about what they think. It's a rare thing these days.
Show threadUrsusBubbanusJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Thanks. I'll be watching for a "fix". I purchased an Ioniq5 in Dec 2022.
@Isocat this is probably relevant to your interests
Show threadRaven667Jun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify powerful ๐Ÿ’ช nice ๐Ÿ‘
Show threaddon Elรญas (como los buses) ๐ŸฅจJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify thanks for posting that video, and congrats for making an impact on public safety
Show threadRichard BrockieJun 16, 2023
@TechConnectify Congratulations!