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vga256whenever someone gets excited about an image or text produced by machine learning, i immediately think of this embarrassing moment from a hayao miyazaki documentary seven years ago
... seven years ago, it became a metaphor for where we are now.
Stacey@vga256 OH. Oof. OMG. I mean, I’m not sure what they were expecting? But if HM said that to me I’m pretty sure I’d just die outright of shame
ANDO 
@vga256 he is brutal
Coles Street Pothole@vga256 This is so good. The look on the younger man's face as he processes what Miyazaki said is priceless.
@vga256 AI bros when their idol says their AI product is an "insult to life."
abekonge (OLD - NOW MOVED)@vga256 amazing! “It’s an insult to life”
Woozle Hypertwin@vga256 I absolutely do not think that would be the video I would choose to present to someone like Miyazaki. It would need to be something beautiful. This was pointedly ugly.
Renée
Dave Bittner@vga256 The final response from the young man reminds me of the "But this goes to 11..." moment in Spinal Tap.
Maria Varmazis@bittner Must have been hard hearing that feedback from someone he undoubtedly admires.
Jeff Daniels WPG
Marc Trius@vga256
I guess sometimes you need to just be completely merciless to a younger artist and Miyazaki decided that this was the time. I hope those folks learned from it
I guess sometimes you need to just be completely merciless to a younger artist and Miyazaki decided that this was the time. I hope those folks learned from it
@vga256 Miyazaki is such a true visionary, he always gets right to the soul of things.
KristFist@vga256 thank you, and I would posit that that IS the horror dude, he just explained why
mempko@vga256 I think the most relevant part is actually after this moment.
When asked what the goal is, they said "to make a machine that can draw like people do". Miyazaki says "I feel like we are nearing to the end of times. We humans are losing faith in ourselves".
Hayao Miyazaki's thoughts on an artificial intelligence
@mempko yes - clip was too long for mastodon unfortunately.
KazinatorWow, that was super awkward. Why would you present something hideously macabre like that to Miyazaki, of all people. Like we have this gee whiz AI for generation and this is the best, most representative demo we could come up with. If Miyazaki were some guru of the grotesque, it might make sense.
Josh Wold
geobeck@vga256
To me, the insult is to say artificial "intelligence" without the quotation marks. We have a labor-saving tool that works better for certain applications than previous tools because it can summarize a wide range of existing knowledge very quickly.
But if you try to prompt A"I" to leap beyond logic, you see its limitations. Visually, for example, you need extensive "prompt engineering" to coax its conceptual understanding beyond a three-year-old level.
⏚ Antoine Chambert-LoirQT @vga256
“It's an awful insult to life.”
Comrade elronxenu@vga256 He doesn't hold back ...
Melody Cooper@vga256 Stunningly moving. Generative AI insults life by creating without the pain, the love or the joy that only a humans can bring to images and stories.
0ddj0bb@vga256 "this is all experimental"
Surrre jan
@vga256 i mean.... an insult to life is the purpose of what they tried to do. They tried to make a zombie like horror creature. Such things do not exist and are an insult to life.
However, i really think this was not the thing they wanted to show Miyazaki if they wanted to show the beauty or the splendor of what AI can do.
I think Miyazaki would still have been critical and be worried about removing humans so far from the artistry of the craft. But "this is an insult to life" is something he would jot have said.
They really misjudged their audience.
gullevek ⚛️@vga256 @TomatoGrilledCheese Yup. Didn’t get much better since then
Billy SmithWhether it's using AI, CGI, or hand-drawn analogue, why in the Hell anyone would try to pitch a zombie concept to Hiyao Miyazaki?