Trevor BrambleJun 13, 2023
Taggart 

With the Reddit thing, it'd be easy to miss what's going on on StackOverflow. Basically:

1. Site owners allowed LLM-generated content.

2. Mods are on strike.

3. Also, back in March it turns out SO turned off the Creative Commons data pipe, which backs up the site to the Internet Archive, in an attempt to confound using SO for training data.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a33dj/stack-overflow-moderators-are-striking-to-stop-garbage-ai-content-from-flooding-the-site

https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/390106/moderation-strike-update-data-dumps-choosing-representatives-gpt-data-and-wh

Stack Overflow Moderators Are Striking to Stop Garbage AI Content From Flooding the Site

Volunteer moderators of the forum are striking over a policy that says AI-generated content can practically not be moderated.

Jun 12, 2023 at 2:30pmWeb
Show threadJT WildfeuerJun 12, 2023
@mttaggart Great breakdown, thank you!
Show threadAssegaiaJun 12, 2023
@mttaggart The Internet is going through some rough changes.
Show threadNiceGlutes9140 Jun 12, 2023
@mttaggart what is going on with these sites lately? People have lost their minds.
Show threadViktor NagornyyJun 13, 2023

@mttaggart There is an open source alternative to SO people should consider:
https://codidact.com/

Non-profit behind it:
https://codidact.org/

Codidact

Show threadQuincy ⁂Jun 13, 2023
@viktor Thanks! I've been looking for a noncommercial SO alternative for some time now. @mttaggart
Show threadLukas 🥔Jun 19, 2023
@viktor ooh, does it federate? 👀 (not sure if I want it to, haha)
Show threadViktor NagornyyJun 19, 2023
@lukas No, I don't think it is federated.
Show threadBret MogilefskyJun 13, 2023
@mttaggart However see also... https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389928/gpt-on-the-platform-data-actions-and-outcomes
GPT on the platform: Data, actions, and outcomes

In a meeting with some moderators last week, I committed to releasing the data sets from our initial studies around the efficacy and false positive rates of ChatGPT detectors to them. Tuesday after...

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Show threadTaggart Jun 13, 2023
@mogul I believe this is addressed in the post I linked. Specifically that the methodology is suspect.
Show threadBret MogilefskyJun 13, 2023
@mttaggart Oh I missed your second link! Sorry about that.
Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 13, 2023
@mttaggart Did all the tech billionaires just catch the same virus?
Show threadTaggart Jun 13, 2023
@mastodonmigration I would venture that the same brainworms that lead one to be morally bankrupt enough to become a billionaire also lead to this behavior.
Show threadExtinction (our fate)Jun 13, 2023
@mttaggart @mastodonmigration I think the VC oligarchs are putting as you say "brainworms" of fear and greed into those they might have bailed out in the past.
Show threadArneBabJun 13, 2023
@mastodonmigration they had it for a long time already. It just wasn’t profitable to show that. @mttaggart
Show threadSeth Johnson Jun 19, 2023
@mastodonmigration @mttaggart Remeber that bank crash a few months back… could be echos of SVB being put into production.
Show threadJonathan HendryJun 13, 2023

@mttaggart

Maybe there needs to be a CC variant license that doesn't allow use in training data.

Show threadVissJun 13, 2023
@mttaggart @SecurityWriter it would seem that unreal2's flak cannon has come to life as llm technology, and its resulted in hot molten scrap metal being blasted around the internet
Show threadSheogorathJun 13, 2023

@mttaggart it's an interesting battle between the AI companies and other tech companies/organisations with a lot of casualties.

AI companies make a ton of money and scrape the entire internet for training material.

Tech companies see an increase in cost for infrastructure due to scraping and a lot of opportunity cost due to the AI financial bubble.

The casualties are users, their content and everyone using APIs.

Which is weird. It's all a battle about money.

Show threadMeow.tar.gz  Jun 13, 2023
@mttaggart I am sympathetic to this move.