📢 Exciting update, Pixelfed community!

We've got something amazing in the works that will transform the way you share your visual stories.

🚀✨ Pixelfed Stories is coming soon to our app, allowing you to captivate your audience with ephemeral moments that disappear after 24 hours.

Get ready to update your app and experience a whole new level of storytelling!

Stay tuned for the official release date and be prepared to unleash your creativity. 📱📸 #ComingSoon #PixelfedStories

This is epic 😎
@pixelfed this was also me learning there's an official app 😱
what is that good for?
@pixelfed will it be possible to download stories or it has to be a fork/workaround made by a community?
@pixelfed will this also be available on an android app? At the moment I use pixeldroid, but I'm unsure about it's UI. The one your showing looks more friendly.
@pork_slam @pixelfed PixelDroid dev is also working on it.
@mitexleo @pixelfed niceeee!! looking forward to it!
@pork_slam @pixelfed They're two different apps. One by Pixelfed directly — the iOS one — and a unofficial official (supported by Pixelfed but not by them) client — that's PixelDroid.

@pixelfed What is so amazing about stories that disappear after 24 hours (comparing to stories that do not expire)?

I understand that the only difference is that you have to rush to your smartphone/computer in order to "not miss" the story before it expires. This encourages more use of digital screens - or you will have a sense of missing out (i.e. advancing Fear Of Missing Out, #FOMO, among people).

@chlopmarcin @pixelfed it's commonly accepted to put less effort into stories. Eases the internal perfectionist's grip.
It's a common problem on photosharing websites, that one should only post quality shots there 🤷‍♂️
@pixelfed I don't like that it replicates 24h from Ig
@pixelfed Why can’t I find the app in iOS App Store?

@sunil @pixelfed from what I understand it's still in. However, I think the version for IOS is more polished than the one released for android.

https://testflight.apple.com/join/ykZXjCjM

Join the Pixelfed beta

Available on iOS

@pork_slam @pixelfed That helped. Joined the beta. Thanks.

@pixelfed Oh no, another app who is implementing this useless features only a handful people use in other apps.

And I don't even ask why, because the answer would be: "Other do it, we do it, too!"

Why even bothering to create a picture and upload it, if it gets deleted after 24 hours?

The picture can't be interesting at all! It's just another feature to say "It's appreciated to puke into the internet".

What a waste of resources!

btw. I thought #fediverse apps wanted to be a little bit more different from the data collecting originals and it's about the people and the social aspect and not about mindlessly consuming...

@utopify_org @pixelfed I am managing public accounts on Insta. Stories have two advantages. Being time-limited they are good for daily posts that get deleted once they are irrelevant. This is much better than plastering a feed with info that needs to be deleted manually. Time saver. Stories are a the primary way to reach followers. While feed posts are good for general long-term content that is more discoverable and permanent beyond your community.

@utopify_org @pixelfed They serve different paces of communication that creative entities around the globe are used to. To have the same functionality on a federated network is a good thing, IMO. Should we copy everything from Metagram? Hell, no!

Pls copy: stories, highlights, videos, URL stickers, countdowns, mention stickers
Pls don't: The dopamine hellscape called reels.

@yuliyan @pixelfed What are url and mention stickers? And countdowns?

Sorry to ask stupid questions, but I have never used Insta.

@utopify_org Sure, so url stickers are basically buttons that you can place within a story. They contain a URL that leads to some external content. Sharing a link but only for 24 hours.

Mention stickers are the same but instead of a URL they contain the handles of other profiles. Good for directing attention towards them. The mentioned profiles usually can share the story containing their handle in their own story.

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@[email protected] stickers can be signed up to and remind you when the countdown is close to its end. Good for events.

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@yuliyan I can't even imagine what all of this is used for and how useful it can be?

The only thing I can imagine is an influencer who is giving away stuff, forcing others to follow other accounts and doing artificial shortage, to stress out people.

@utopify_org While this is an existing cliché, there is a lot more that can be done via stories. You can share videos up to 60 seconds, clickable feed posts, two-option votes, gradual scale votes, ask questions and share selected replies, quizzes ....The options are there. It's definitely not only used for influencer marketing. We are running a hyperlocal web radio. Most of our interaction with the community on Instagram works via stories, not gonna lie.

@yuliyan The harder I try to understand the world, the stranger it gets.

Maybe I am just too old and can't understand it anymore, even if I try.

@utopify_org It's a matter of diving into it, either because you want to or because you need to. A system and its rules. All that happened gradually on my side. In the end it's important to reflect which media are good for yourself and which are not. Again, having options is key.

@yuliyan @pixelfed Can you name examples, where posts are irrelevant within 24 hours? Okay, if you have a news channel, I would understand it... but else?

I really don't understand why I should follow someone, who is literally producing videos for the trash bin? It already is a sign the content is garbage!

Seriously, I don't understand how you can reach followers with this?

@utopify_org @pixelfed You just gave a heavy example. Daily news. The fuckton of media outlets dependent on Instagram is outrageous. We need alternatives.

Also, in fact you can pace almost any kind of content to a daily basis.

Another way of viewing it: Do you write everything down that people say to you and stick it on a wall to stay there? No, because why should you? A huge portion of communication has only temporary relevance.

@yuliyan @pixelfed I don't stick anything on a wall, what people tell me, and yes, why should I? Most of it is not even relevant, but if I follow someone it would be fatal, if the information is gone after 24 hours, because I don't want to check social media every day. That's just oil for FOMO!

And I think this is another technology of big companies, who want the users to stay on their platform and use it more frequently.

But okay, I think I can't do anything with this technology (or find it useful) because I wasn't conditioned to be dependent on it.

I think I have to see examples in action to understand it, because in my head it is just a bad thing.

@utopify_org @pixelfed I think we are hitting parallel truths here. Stories can be addictive. At minimum the functionality should be optional as in removable from the interface if not needed.

Another default behavior of Instagram is that all stories of all profiles you follow are displayed automatically. Why not make it opt-in so people can carefully chose which profile should be able to push stories onto you?

@yuliyan @pixelfed An opt-in system wouldn't work very well, because if someone is interested in a channel, they want to know everything and don't want to miss something (FOMO). The worst that can happen is if the influencer says (in a normal video) something related to a story like "In my last vote you could decide what I do next". For everyone who is following this influencer and who didn't vote, because of the opt-in system, the person will opt-in asap and will check social media daily.

I might not understand how this feature could be useful for the end user, but I understand it a little more, why people have the urge to check social media several times a day. At least this is one of the factors.

@utopify_org @pixelfed I believe there is a middle ground between harmful and useful design when it comes to temporary social media content. At the bad end of the spectrum we have the algo-driven slot-machine that are Insta Reels or TikTok feeds.

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@utopify_org @pixelfed On the other side there are feed posts .that are opt-in via follow or hashtag-follow. Stories is closer to a feed post than to the bad end. It's inherited opt-in via follow and chronological. Even on Instagram it is, afaik not algo-driven. Long story short, having options is key.

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@utopify_org @pixelfed One could argue if stories need so much visual presence on the main feed. The glowing rings can be dopamine pills for sure. But there is also choice here. You can decide which stories to view. This is something not even feed posts let you decide. Either you see a post or you don't. Stories in contrast let you know that there is content from a profile. You can open it, or you can jump it instead.

@yuliyan @pixelfed Thanks a lot for explaining everything.

Can you post examples (screenshots) of those glowing rings or those polls in a video or how all of this looks like?

@utopify_org I used IG stories to capture moments in time via a picture with music. It was a cool way to put a pin on my current mood.
@dusnm Do I understand it right, that you create something like a video clip with music for yourself, which can be deleted after 24h and which shows your mood at this particular moment?
@utopify_org Pretty much.

@dusnm Wouldn't it be even good to have all of this data combined in a single video clip, which reflects a whole week or month to get a summary of your mood and to see how you can improve it?

I don't know how your clips looked like, but it sounds odd to delete art after 24h.

@utopify_org I don't think I want to use that to analyze anything. It's just a way to express creativity in a way that's designed to be ephemeral.
@pixelfed Why on earth do you have to copy everything from Meta? Can it at least be turned off?
@pixelfed what can I do if upload of photos is not working. And instagram imports does import everything but the photos?
@pixelfed looks great, one suggestion is maybe change the colours in the gradient as they highly resemble Instagram's ones, and Meta loves money :)
@LinuxGamer @pixelfed Yes, it's really really too much Insta, be yourself, create by yourself, don't copy everything.
@pixelfed I was trying this out today, and it seems that stories aren’t federated outside of Pixelfed. So if someone follows my pixelfed account from Mastodon, they don’t get notified of any of the story content. Is that correct? ActivityPub / Mastodon COULD handle displaying these posts, and even deleting them after the set time. Maybe display them in a threaded post as a sort of collection as they get added?