Facing Reddit’s Exorbitant API Pricing, Christian Selig Is Shutting Down Apollo
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/06/09/apollo-reddit-demise
Facing Reddit’s Exorbitant API Pricing, Christian Selig Is Shutting Down Apollo

Link to: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/

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@daringfireball never knew Schwartz was Reddit cofounder. ☹️
@daringfireball a total mess and what could be the tragic end of a beautiful app.

@daringfireball
> Given what we knew about Reddit’s stance on this API pricing a week ago, this isn’t surprising

Huffman and his lackeys engaged in a protracted, bad faith discussion where they expressed their intention to offer reasonable terms and pricing for third party API access, which Selig did not object to.

In the end, their exorbitant pricing and unrealistic timeline made it clear their intention was to kill off third party apps altogether.

@daringfireball considering how well Twitter is going at the moment, it is quite clear that Huffman is driving Reddit into the ground.
A lot of high-volume Reddit users are just going to leave the platform, rather than use the official app or the web interface.
Addressing the community about changes to our API

>How do you address the concerns of users who feel that Reddit has become increasingly profit-driven and less focused on community...

reddit
"What do you think Reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz would say about this if he were still alive?"
@daringfireball Reddit are spinning this in such a way to make out that they’re the underdog, except they’re coming off sulky and petty , “Unlike some of the 3P [third-party] apps, we are not profitable” ( Huffman’s words…. ). Space Karen 2.0….

@daringfireball Regarding the part about Huffman being solely responsible rather than reddit as a whole:

I’m not sure that’s true. Other reddit employees (primarily “FlyingLaserTurtle”) have also been making false & misleading public statements about Apollo in calls with moderators and reddit comments, and are continuing to do so in today’s AMA. Looks to me like a pervasive cultural thing at reddit.

@dale_price @daringfireball i listenedto the snippet of call recording and the communication in it is so bad and unexplained, there's no way I would want to do business with the Apollo developer. I think both parties have put themselves in a corner with bad decisions and there's no way to resolve this.
@gingerbeardman @dale_price @daringfireball
Wow, top prize for worst hot take of the day. Here's some additional context to the broader story…
@daringfireball @dale_price @freediverx I'm aware of the full story. Both parties are to blame.
@daringfireball Sooo…what’s everyone doing for a Reddit alternative? Any recommendations?
@naeemthm @daringfireball There’s lemmy and there’s kbin that seem really cool. I’m sure there’s more, but in the case of kbin you can even interact with posts on the Fediverse/Mastodon already (example, go to https://kbin.social/ and on a post click more > copy fediverse url
Lemmy - A decentralised discussion platform for communities

Lemmy

@eukara Whoa! Thanks for the immediate and helpful response!!

@eukara @naeemthm @daringfireball

Is either of those better suited for recreating a Reddit-like platform structured around interests rather than people?

@freediverx @naeemthm @daringfireball We do already have a lot of instances on Fedi/Mastodon that are centered around interests, so I could totally see that happening with either. Like, we have oldbytes.space for retro computing and mastodon.gamedev.place for game development
OldBytes Space - Mastodon

Full of old bytes. Please don't demagnetize the core memory, thanks. Do you like old hardware ? Do you use them ? Perfect you're welcome here !

Mastodon hosted on oldbytes.space
@daringfireball my Reddit account is nearly 10yr old and 7yr of that has been spent on Apollo. June 30th will be my last day on the website , it’s basically unusable without Apollo.
@daringfireball
"What do you think Reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz would say about this if he were still alive?”