PanzerJun 8, 2023
The talk show live with @gruber Greg Joswiak, John Ternus and Mike Rockwell of Apple
Show threadNonRevGuyJun 8, 2023

Has Gruber yet opened up The Talk Show to more diverse voices from women or people of color?

I stopped reading and listening to John after he made a racist quip "You're folding it wong." against Ray Wong in February 2021. https://twitter.com/gruber/status/1229815856768614401?s=20

I'm also surprised by ticket cost, but respect that he offers a lower tier for anyone who feels that they needed it.

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John Gruber on Twitter

“@raywongy I am truly sorry Ray. Removed that line from the text, changed the URL slug, and all requests to the old slug should redirect to new. I should have known better, will do better, and look forward to your continuing work at Input.”

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Show threadGregnee

@nonrevguy @panzer
I vaguely remember this incident. I didn’t think the joke was overly offensive. Sophomoric for sure, but puns involving names almost always are. I didn’t find it anymore racist than a crass joke about somebody with the last name “Johnson”, just kinda dumb.

And I say this as a guy with an Asian surname that has been the butt of dumb jokes since my classmates were old enough to talk.

Jun 8, 2023 at 5:52amWeb
Show threadNonRevGuyJun 8, 2023
@Gregnee @panzer Has Gruber actually brought women and PoC to The Talk Show? Sure, it’s Apple’s executives this week, but who’s on next week and the following… Oh well.
Show threadGregneeJun 8, 2023

@nonrevguy @panzer
Women, rarely. Usually those are personal friends/journalists. Joanna Stern has appeared on the show a few times that I can recall. Another female tech writer who now works at Apple has been on the show once that I recall.

As for POC, it’s a podcast, so I have no idea what these people look like. They’re just disembodied voices. If I had to guess, I’d say they are majority of European descent, but obviously he has folks like Nilay Patel on at regular intervals.