JoelleMay 26, 2023

The most common gender affirming surgery is breast augmentation -- in cis (non-trans) women.

The regret rate is around 20%.

Gender affirming surgeries in trans people have around a 1% regret rate.

Guess which people need approval from a mental health provider...

Show threadBritish Tech Guru
@joelle I wonder what the regret rate for those with tonsillitis who undergo a tonsillectomy would be. My guess is the regret rate for those with tonsillitis that don't have a tonsillectomy would be zero as they'd all be dead.
May 26, 2023 at 12:57pmWeb
Show threadJoelleMay 26, 2023

@britishtechguru Tonsillitis is not usually fatal. Tonsillectomy is done to improve quality of life, not to keep someone alive, generally.

That said, looks like it has about a 7% regret rate.

But even surgeries everyone agrees are done to keep someone alive, like cancer surgeries, have a significantly higher regret rate than the gender reassignement surgeries.

Show threadBritish Tech GuruMay 26, 2023

@joelle I had a tonsillectomy at 7 years old. Adenoids too. No regrets.

Haven't felt the need for a sex change op but I bet there are plenty doctors who'd do one without enforcing a psychiatric evaluation.

Show threadJoelleMay 26, 2023
@britishtechguru You’re right, there is. They do genital sex reassignments on intersex infants. And, yes, there is a high regret rate in those infants when they grow up — unlike adults that have surgery or even kids who receive puberty blockers. I’ll note the infant surgeries on intersex kids are not banned in any USA state (or elsewhere in the world).
Show threadBritish Tech GuruMay 26, 2023
@joelle The number of hermaphrodites or intersex babies born is an extreme minority. In my 56 years on this planet I have met just one.
Show threadJoelleMay 26, 2023
@britishtechguru I’ve met dozens (that I know of — most people don’t talk about thie reproductive organs and/or chromosomes and/or hormone sensitivities in random conversation!) and am married to one. But the size of that minority is irrelevant, the point is that there is an entirely different standard applied to trans people — because of moral disapproval.
Show threadBritish Tech GuruMay 26, 2023

@joelle Most if not all of that disapproval is based on interpretation of the bible. The bible was compiled 300 years after the fact. It was heavily edited with scriptures not representing the ideas of the pope of the day just being burned. The bible is basically one man's decree as to how people should live.

I notice that in non Christian cultures, transgender seems more accepted. The faffafini in Asia, theres a group in India. Not sure if they're called hiru.

It leads me more to think that the bible is too restrictive. Mind, eastern religions are more about how to live while western religions are more about how to prepare for death.

Show threadT. T. PerryMay 26, 2023

@britishtechguru

@joelle

Anyone can cut off a baby boy's foreskin. Don't even need to be a doctor. That's how little value we invest as a society in the rights of children, and how hypocritical cisgender people are.