The privatisation of #water firms has had a clear result:

1. to fund profits to #shareholders, investment was constrained;

2. low investment has led to the #watercrisis, #pollution & water losses through leaks;

3, (Finally) under-funding is to be rectified & funded via loans;

4. the ongoing costs of loans will be repaid by customers through higher bills.

The only thing the #investors have done is stolen our money, offering no actual benefits;

the #Tories' #kleptocapitalism in a nutshell!

@ChrisMayLA6 @CheRosach Public utilities should be publicly owned and operated, period.

@WTL @ChrisMayLA6 @CheRosach

The mess privatisation has made of the UK's water system is symptomatic of much of the general economic malaise in the UK now.

The biggest issue of all - the housing crisis - is also the direct result of the massive transfer of public assets into private hands initiated by Thatcherism (neoliberalisn).

Almost every aspect of the UK's broad spectrum under-performance compared with neighbouring countries - including the tragic disintegration of its welfare state - can be traced back to this transfer of wealth out of the public's hands.

What about the brexit factor? - that too, as far as its key leaders were concerned, was part of the same neoliberal project to 'free' capitalism from state (or superstate) control.

@GeofCox @WTL @ChrisMayLA6 @CheRosach

Actually privatisation has nothing to do with the state of the water industry: it's *always* been this bad!
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1/11 This is going to be my first long-form post. I don't know if this will go anywhere, but I want to get this off my chest. The UK has a problem with sewage in its seas and rivers. The Standard Model of this on the Left is that greedy privatised water companies have focused on paying shareholders rather than investing in infrastructure. Hence we are in a literal mess. This narrative is seriously incomplete, verging on wrong.

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@tokensane @GeofCox @WTL @CheRosach

Fair enough, but I think we can all agree that provitisation, presented as the 'answer' to the previous problems, very much wasn't!

@ChrisMayLA6 @tokensane @GeofCox @WTL @CheRosach Loose regulation of a monopoly supplier seems to be the root cause of the issue. Rewarding shareholders for providing capital is one thing, but allowing shareholder rewards to be funded through borrowing rather than from profits earned by that capital (especially if infrastructure expenditure is insufficient to maintain quality) seems utterly indefensible
@Myryama @ChrisMayLA6 @GeofCox @WTL @CheRosach Actually the investment does seem to have been adequate to *maintain* quality, its just that the quality in question has always been shitty.

@tokensane @Myryama @ChrisMayLA6 @WTL @CheRosach

I don't think 'it's *always* been this bad', and I think your thread rather glosses over the detail on exactly why, when, and how the UK got to its current crisis in favour of the more general (correct) point that there has always been a problem.

It's a bit like the argument that there were problems with British Rail, so privatisation hasn't created the UK's rail problems - but rather than the typical British approach of looking back at just its own history, looking at the comparative progress made by publicly-owned railways in neighbouring countries actually better illuminates how privatisation has held the UK back.

The fact is that in the UK's water system both leaks and river pollution are at record levels - this is not to say there was never a problem, just that it really is getting worse, not better. Britain’s bathing waters rank 24th out of 30 European countries - just 16% of England’s rivers, lakes, estuaries and coastal waters are in a “high or good status”, down from 25% a decade ago.

There is also a question of the form of private sector involvement - in general, in my country (France) this does not take the form of UK-style 'selling the family silver' privatisation, but simple contracting, retaining ultimate state, democratic control - and the assets - a better model I think than the UK's 'regulator' model.