Jeff AtwoodCan we please for the love of god stop collectively pretending Adderall isn’t meth?
Tim Bray@codinghorror No. There are people with ADHD for whom Adderall means they can get out of bed and do their laundry.
Ken Crandall@kencrandall @timbray also true of alcohol, don't make it right.
@codinghorror @kencrandall Um, do you have personal experience with the ADHD family of disorders, or people who suffer from them? Because I do, in my immediate and extended family, and your position is angering me. Would you like to drop by and explain to my teenager why the medicine that lets them get out of bed and do school is “not right”? (Not specifically Adderall, but a stimulant.)
@timbray @kencrandall I'm not saying "not right" but "abuse and harm profile is radically underestimated in a way that history is not going to look back kindly on"
flere-imsaho 🇺🇦@mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall fair. let's revisit this in 10 years and see who history proves right, shall we?
@codinghorror @timbray @kencrandall that's an admission of having absolutely nothing to support your opinion, mind.
and, if you could be so kind, what are your qualifications in medicine and biochemistry? judging by your argument (apparently thinking that methylation does not matter much), you have none.
@mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall I think I could make a very compelling case but I don't want to bother you. Let history tell us who was right. Simpler, cleaner, less fuss.
@codinghorror
remind us again what are your medical/biochemical/public health qualifications here?
@timbray @kencrandall
remind us again what are your medical/biochemical/public health qualifications here?
@timbray @kencrandall
@mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall My qualifications are, I know how to read. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11595829/One-EIGHT-people-ADHD-drug-adderall-prescription-rules-relaxed.html
@codinghorror can you answer my question or is it also something that you can't say in public? (quoting a typically scaremongering article from daily mail does not answer it)
@mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall I've known a lot of people who get sucked into this drug, and my friend circle isn't that big, so.. it scares me. Tip of the iceberg kinda thing.
@codinghorror @timbray @kencrandall can you spell your medicine/biochemistry/public health credentials louder for the crowd in the back? thanks.
@mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall I don't feel like you are discussing this in good faith with me, so I am disengaging from you. The offer to have a direct voice call is real, not a challenge, just so I can be more human and honest and open with you, in a way that I cannot be in public here.