Jeff AtwoodCan we please for the love of god stop collectively pretending Adderall isn’t meth?
Tim Bray@codinghorror No. There are people with ADHD for whom Adderall means they can get out of bed and do their laundry.
Ken Crandall@kencrandall @timbray also true of alcohol, don't make it right.
@codinghorror @kencrandall Um, do you have personal experience with the ADHD family of disorders, or people who suffer from them? Because I do, in my immediate and extended family, and your position is angering me. Would you like to drop by and explain to my teenager why the medicine that lets them get out of bed and do school is “not right”? (Not specifically Adderall, but a stimulant.)
@timbray @kencrandall I'm not saying "not right" but "abuse and harm profile is radically underestimated in a way that history is not going to look back kindly on"
flere-imsaho 🇺🇦@mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall fair. let's revisit this in 10 years and see who history proves right, shall we?
@codinghorror @timbray @kencrandall that's an admission of having absolutely nothing to support your opinion, mind.
and, if you could be so kind, what are your qualifications in medicine and biochemistry? judging by your argument (apparently thinking that methylation does not matter much), you have none.
@mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall I think I could make a very compelling case but I don't want to bother you. Let history tell us who was right. Simpler, cleaner, less fuss.
b4ux1t3 
#1️⃣@codinghorror @mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall history has already fairly thoroughly proved you wrong.
A societal bias towards some ephemeral "productivity target" and an epidemic of over-prescription and misdiagnosis are not problems with a specific drug, they're problems with the system as a whole.
Adderall is not methamphetamine. They aren't the same thing. Full stop.
@codinghorror @mawhrin @timbray @kencrandall If you said "Can we all agree that some medications are overprescribed", I don't think anyone in this thread would have disagreed with you.
@b4ux1t3 @codinghorror @timbray @kencrandall …and adderall is but one of various medications used to treat adhd, which atwood must know if he ever did the lightest research – which only shows how dishonestly he approaches the conversation.