Chris Trottier
We haven’t yet made a decision regarding whether https://calckey.social will federate with #Barcelona.

I’m of the belief that there needs to be a “lobby” where new people try out software to decide whether they like it, and federation is important for spreading word of mouth.

On the other hand, #Meta has done horrible things to people, and I will never be their friend so long as Zuck and co. run the show.

I question @film_girl’s assumptions that in order to decentralize we must roll out the welcome mat to the biggest centralizing force on the Internet.

But this isn’t just about centralization, it’s about a well-known peddled of evil arriving on the scene. And I’m not being hyperbolic here. Meta is to social media what Dow is to chemicals.

To everyone who expresses concerns about Meta—you’re right!

RE: https://mastodon.social/users/film_girl/statuses/110398136518629961
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Show threadCharMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet @film_girl I’m here because I escaped Meta and the bird site. I don’t want to be near either
Show threadChristina WarrenMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet I’m not suggesting or even encouraging anyone to roll out a welcome mat! I am saying that making knee-jerk announcements about preemptive bans and encouraging others to do so too is stupid and bad and against the goals that many of those same people claim to have, which is to encourage the usage of decentralized protocols.
Show threadChris TrottierMay 20, 2023
@film_girl Is it kneejerk? I’ve been in the social media business for 15 years, and there’s not a month that goes by in which Meta doesn’t do something morally repugnant.

In fact, I post those stories every day.

I don’t care how good Meta’s engineers are. They’ve done some of the most rotten and morally questionable things ever in the Internet. Because of Meta’s actions, people have died.

You think people are “just” being kneejerk about that? Next to Zuck, Musk is a Boy Scout.
Show threadChristina WarrenMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet I have also been in the social media business for 15+ years. The implementation isn’t even out yet! And you are free to make any decision you want for whatever reason you want. I’m not a bootlicker b/c I think people getting riled up over a rumored integration should slow their roll and take a deep breath first and that people starting brigades and shit over a screenshot should chill out. Or that if you don’t want people to use your software, you shouldn’t make it open source.
Show threadChris TrottierMay 20, 2023
@film_girl And I haven’t made a decision yet regarding federation with Meta.

But my other stance is: if the Fediverse dies because we’re skeptical about Meta, oh well 🤷‍♂️
Show threadChristina WarrenMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet and I wasn’t referring to you with any of my comments!
Show threadRon K Jeffries May 23, 2023
@atomicpoet @film_girl bless you @atomicpoet but that sounds harsh to me. I am not in love with Zuck but don't consider him the Great Satan either. Should Calckey choose to not federate with this new social network it will make Calckey less attractive to me. I agree it's complicated.
Show threadKainoa May 23, 2023
@ronkjeffries @atomicpoet @film_girl but it's not "Calckey" choosing not to federate with Barcelona, it's calckey.social. There are many other Calckey servers you can join, or even start your own.
Show threadJoViKo WiMay 23, 2023
@kainoa @ronkjeffries @atomicpoet @film_girl

I don't think of Zuck as evil, just as yet another billionaire with money and power far, far beyond his competence to manage them.

But I have seen Meta, along with Newscorp, encourage and damn near push my relatives and friends into extremist echo chambers, with resulting terrible damage to their mental health and to our relationships. I have zero interest in being part of any organization that transacts with Meta.

The day calckey.social federates with any Meta server is my last day on this platform. Hopefully that day never comes. 🙏

Thank you @kainoa and @atomicpoet for holding back against that day.
Show threadKainoa May 23, 2023
@jovikowi @ronkjeffries @atomicpoet @film_girl thankfully that day will never come. Zuck is a genuinely evil person, he's displaced the homes of hundreds and built his mansion over sacred land in kau'i
Show threadKainoa May 23, 2023
@jovikowi @ronkjeffries @atomicpoet @film_girl not to mention all the shit he's signed off on Facebook doing, like literally studying emotional manipulation effects on thousands of unknowing users. He literally does all the shit you'd imagine an arch-villain doing.
Show threadAlderForrest 𖤐😈 🇺🇦🇫🇮🇪🇺🏴‍☠️May 23, 2023
@kainoa @jovikowi @ronkjeffries @atomicpoet @film_girl cannot agree more. Zuck-F*ck cares only conquestism. Its like religion to him.
Show threadAdamMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet
Shitty instances are suspended all the time and they've earned the distrust through their behaviour. How many people are here specifically because Meta is awful? Full federation feels like a Trojan horse. Suspending seems like a reasonable default position - maybe limit if they prove to not be a bad actor.
@film_girl
Show threadAnjaMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet @film_girl
I never used facebook and co because I hate everything that comes with Meta and Zuckerberg. I don't want to welcome them. I would block it immediately if possible. People which want to be with Zuckerberg and co can stay with each other not with me. I joined this Fediverse because it's free and not managed by a data crawler.
Show threadNymeMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet @film_girl
Do you know if there is any update about Federation with the social.bund server of the german government? I am still unable to access them from calckey.social.
Show threademmaMay 20, 2023
@atomicpoet @film_girl Remember when info leaked on FB manipulating users' feeds to run tests on mood? I was suicidal during the time they were doing that and ditching FB lessened it noticeably. Everyone else can make their own choices because the fediverse is cool like that but I won't be on a server which federates with them.