Dan GillmorIt is astonishing how Musk's Tesla is persistently allowed to break laws and lie about it. Latest: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/teslas-full-self-driving-sees-pedestrian-chooses-not-to-slow-down/
Dusty Beo@dangillmor Every sci-fi movie has told us this ends badly.
Nihl L'Amas
RGB805@dangillmor this new era shows an underlying problem. Traffic laws that are truly about safety are not enforced often enough. Most traffic enforcement today focuses on low effort, low cost violations like speeding on highways and illegal parking. Officers don’t want to go to court to back up, and most speeding violators don’t contest. The cities and states like the easy revenue. But illegal u turns, wrong lane behavior, failure to stop for crosswalk/ambulance is largely ignored.
Craig Froehle@dangillmor At least in Ohio, what the car did is totally legal.
From ORC 4511.46: "...the driver of a vehicle...shall yield the right of way...to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a crosswalk when the pedestrian is upon the half of the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling, or when the pedestrian is approaching so closely from the opposite half of the roadway as to be in danger."
There was no danger to the pedestrian and he wasn't in the car's lane, so it wasn't required to stop.
MarkWSchumann@cra1g I realize I'm deviating from the main point, but also: that's a bad law. You shouldn't have to be in the crosswalk already to be protected. The driver should stop *before* you risk your life out there.
@markwschumann How is a driver supposed to know a pedestrian wants to cross? I've stopped probably dozens of times for someone standing on the curb at a crosswalk, thinking they were looking for an opening, only to be waved on by them because they're actually just waiting there for something (e.g., an Uber). Entering the crosswalk is a clear sign of intent to cross. It also discourages a ped from interrupting a line of closely packed cars that are passing by, which helps maintain efficient flow.
@cra1g Yeah it would be great if people wouldn't stand *at a crosswalk* and not be trying to cross. It's very unhelpful.
Karl Auerbach@dangillmor Our own Tesla software regularly crashes - setting the horn off - and requires a full power cycle of the car to reset.
A recent update changed how the automatic headlights work - before it was merely bad, unstably flipping from low to high and then back. But now it seems to want to blind oncoming cars - including a police officer who decided that that was enough to pull us over,
We are tired of having to explore the Tesla user interface every day to see what has moved or changed.
@karlauerbach You are the test subject of his research.
RevJeber@dangillmor
Their new slogan: "Tesla FSD, For People Who Drive Like Assholes".
Their new slogan: "Tesla FSD, For People Who Drive Like Assholes".
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@dangillmor I’m surprised that DAs have not subpoenaed for evidence of every traffic law the company’s management chose to let their products violate.
Also, a reminder from IBM:
Isaac Freeman@dangillmor I remember believing twenty years ago that self-driving cars couldn’t happen on regular roads. Either they’d kill people and the companies would go out of business, or they’d be safe and pedestrians wouldn’t fear them, ruining the driving experience.
I figured they’d lobby to force everybody else off the streets, but I wasn’t cynical enough.
I figured they’d lobby to force everybody else off the streets, but I wasn’t cynical enough.