Dan GillmorMay 16, 2023
It is astonishing how Musk's Tesla is persistently allowed to break laws and lie about it. Latest: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/teslas-full-self-driving-sees-pedestrian-chooses-not-to-slow-down/
Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” sees pedestrian, chooses not to slow down

Fan is gleeful about video of beta Full Self-Driving mode breaking traffic laws.

Ars Technica
Show threadCraig FroehleMay 16, 2023

@dangillmor At least in Ohio, what the car did is totally legal.

From ORC 4511.46: "...the driver of a vehicle...shall yield the right of way...to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a crosswalk when the pedestrian is upon the half of the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling, or when the pedestrian is approaching so closely from the opposite half of the roadway as to be in danger."

There was no danger to the pedestrian and he wasn't in the car's lane, so it wasn't required to stop.

Show threadMarkWSchumannMay 17, 2023
@cra1g I realize I'm deviating from the main point, but also: that's a bad law. You shouldn't have to be in the crosswalk already to be protected. The driver should stop *before* you risk your life out there.
Show threadCraig Froehle
@markwschumann How is a driver supposed to know a pedestrian wants to cross? I've stopped probably dozens of times for someone standing on the curb at a crosswalk, thinking they were looking for an opening, only to be waved on by them because they're actually just waiting there for something (e.g., an Uber). Entering the crosswalk is a clear sign of intent to cross. It also discourages a ped from interrupting a line of closely packed cars that are passing by, which helps maintain efficient flow.
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Show threadMarkWSchumannMay 18, 2023
@cra1g Yeah it would be great if people wouldn't stand *at a crosswalk* and not be trying to cross. It's very unhelpful.