Clarification

You do not have to worry about your mastodon.social (m.s) account being defederated.

There is a well meaning, but misleading post currently promoted that suggests you should move your m.s account because:

1) "Instance admins are considering defederating them"
2) "Their admin is making spam accounts easier to create."

Very few, if any, instances are considering blocking m.s, and the recent spam attacks are worthy of sober discussion, not hyperbole. [more]

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#moderation

@mastodonmigration If you read through #mastoadmin posts after the recent spam wave, some admins definitely blocked or silenced mastodon.social. Some temporary, some longer.

@daniel As discussed above, the issue here is not whether some instances temporarily blocked mastodon.social while the attack was going on. The implication was that people on mastodon.social were at risk for being "defederated" and that they should change instances to avoid this. This was a misleading because peoples accounts on mastodon.social are not at risk of being isolated.

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@mastodonmigration I just don't understand where this certainty of your statement comes from or what your intention is. "They will not...", "They're not at risk...".

There are definitely considerations by admins to defederate mastodon.social if it reaches a certain user share:
https://mstdn.social/@feditips/110260432218416976

And I'm pretty sure I've also seen statements by bigger instances with a couple thousand of users that back this decision (unfortunately the search isn't really good enough to find those posts atm).

The question is also whether the temporary blockings of mastodon.social will at some point become very many temporary blockings which are then actually more or less permanent. The moderation of mastodon.social
will definitely suffer as the number of users increases (even if you leave out spam accounts and attacks like yesterday). The other issues were mentioned in the post by @feditips .

If the users can do it and are confident enough, they should
definitely register on other instances. If only for the reason of load distribution and to keep the #Fediverse alive and a nice and friendly place.

Btw some of the other fediverse software uses captchas to prevent bot accounts.
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I don't think people are realising the danger the Fediverse is in. The only thing stopping corporations and VCs taking over this place is that the Fediverse is spread out on many different servers, which makes it very difficult to purchase. If most of the Fediverse ends up on mastodon.social, which is now a strong possibility, there will be nothing to stop most of it being sold to Musk or Zuckerberg or whoever. The bigger mastodon.social becomes, the more likely a buyout is to happen. (1/4)

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@daniel @feditips Regarding the "not at risk" statement. People on mastodon.social are simply not at risk of being permanently fediblocked isolated from large parts of the Fediverse. They simply are not, and to suggest they are is a scare tactic.

@mastodonmigration @daniel

It's not a scare tactic.

Blocking mastodon.social is now seriously on the cards for many admins, even ones who would never have done it before.

The reason the Fediverse exists is to be decentralised. M.s is way too large now, and getting even larger due to the official app's terrible new onboarding.

If people want this place to be decentralised, they need to move off mastodon.social. If they don't care, then they can expect more fediblocks as m.s grows.

@mastodonmigration @daniel

The whole point of this place is to spread the network out:

https://fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse-on-so-many-separate-servers/

If the growth of m.s is a threat to this, then that growth needs to be stopped.

Ideally, the owners of m.s would stop taking signups, or at least remove it from the official app. But they're doing exactly the opposite, they're telling everyone to sign up on m.s.

M.s are destroying the driving force of the Fediverse by doing this, m.s need to stop.

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@feditips honest question from a non-techie who came here when Twitter was first purchased but not from Twitter: Would it be feasible for new sign ups to be offered the option to be automatically put on a random instance to start? Of course the instances on that list would choose to opt in to it and new users could choose to DIY if they desired. But from my perspective as a still newbie, what instance I ended up on mattered very little as a casual user with no specific focus. I think most people are like me.

I get that the wealth of servers protects the system as a whole from takeover etc and that's great. But asking new users to care what instance they are on and evaluate them from the get go is a big hurdle. It's hard to grok why the choice even matters when one first signs up. So sign new users up to a random one by default to spread everyone around, but give them the option to choose too. Could that work?

@cmonster

Yes, a random server from a trusted pool with good track records is exactly what people are suggesting should happen.

@feditips great. I hope that happens.
Thanks for all you do. Yours was one of the first accounts I followed and still one of my faves. I learn new stuff all the time from you!🙏
@cmonster @feditips I have been thinking about this very idea during the recent spam incident. You articulated it better than I.
@cmonster @feditips This is certainly one of the suggestions, and there is absolutely no technical reason it would not work.