For me this was the key moment for Amy Chozick as author of "Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth."

Chozick writes:

"She thinks if she’d spent more time quietly working on her inventions and less time on a stage promoting the company, she would have revolutionized health care by now."

That Holmes still believes she could transform health care tells us she is nowhere in her recognition of reality, which in turn means the con goes on. And that— 1/2
#journalism #science #nytimes

... should have been the central theme of the story, not the two people she is said to be. As Chozick writes, "she truly believes that she could have — and, in fact, she still could — change the world."

There's no two people. Just the one Holmes who has yet to meet the reality of what she did— and who she is.

Here's a gift link for the New York Times story. Should be no paywall. Hopefully it will work. 2/2
https://t.co/9a0NyIbXqZ

Elizabeth Holmes Opens Up About Her Theranos Trial and What Comes Next

The black turtlenecks are gone. So is the voice. As the convicted Theranos founder awaits prison, she has adopted a new persona: devoted mother.

The New York Times
@jayrosen_nyu As I understand it, Holmes is unrepentant. Which should be the first thing preventing a redemption story...
@toxtethogrady She’s a narcissistic sociopath. That’s never going to change. Chozick is a horrible journalist.
@jayrosen_nyu I've never met a con-artist that ever stopped being a con-artist.
@jayrosen_nyu @Jayslacks
I’m given to understand that the death penalty is 100% effective against recidivism.

@Jayslacks @jayrosen_nyu Yeah pretty much the only con artists that "stop" are one of two groups:

a) people doing it for survival, who usually don't want to do it and pick something less harmful to other people when it becomes available

and

b) people who "switch sides" and rat out other scammers/get paid to tell people how they operate

Holmes doesn't seem to be either and giving her a "rehab tour" is a REALLY bad idea IMO

@jayrosen_nyu The link didn't work for me (geographical maybe) but here's an archived version: https://archive.is/ng8Ek
@jayrosen_nyu This is the point in which the verb "says" is the bare minimum of skepticism to demonstrate. Chozick has no idea what Holmes believes. (Though obviously, "The entirety of the scientific community believes that the Theranos project was a fraud, through-and-through," should be in there, too.)

@jayrosen_nyu A few years ago I was gifted Chozick's book about following Hilary around on the campaign. I thought it might be interesting to hear some insights about what she was really like.

I never really got to find out, because I gave up after the first three chapters filled with Chozick's obsessive focus on herself, her dating life, her relationship with the Clinton staffers etc.

Ive never read anyone with less of an understanding of where the focus of a story should be.

@jayrosen_nyu Seems like this is more of the same.

More than any of the specifics in the book, I was struck by just the sheer shallowness of the worldview it contained..

not particularly interested in the substance of politics, the mechanisms of change, processes, policies or movements.

But absolutely fascinated by the lives of, and interactions between, reporters, politicians and political insiders.

@mattlav1250 @jayrosen_nyu saw a comment in her that basically summed her and her ilk up as frustrated MFA authors who never got a fiction book deal and I can see it

@jayrosen_nyu

It ends up being quite an insight, in an unintentional, indirect way into the mindset of the kind of people who get assigned to do 'profile' type pieces...

the circles they swim in, the things they value, what they find interesting and thus ultimately...what they think the AUDIENCE will find interesting.

@jayrosen_nyu *eyes rolled so hard my head hurts gif* - holy crap this is worse than I even imagined from the snippets I read. NYT Pitchbot *quoted from the article directly* because it is so cringe. Thanks for the gift link so I could read actually how awful it truly was. Whoever green-lighted (green-lit?) this puff piece of an obvious huckster/grifter/con-woman should be demoted or fired. Unconscionable.

@jayrosen_nyu I'm not sure if it matters whether or not Holmes believes it when she talks about working more on the 'inventions'.

It's enough that she says things like that, and it gets her into the biggest publications in the world where she's treated very very nicely.

@jayrosen_nyu this is the exact fawning, credulous, access-obsessed coverage that made her so dangerous in the first place
@jayrosen_nyu honestly, her family seems more like a cult than anything else.
@jayrosen_nyu Truly there's no bottom to the NYT's venality.
@Tejuino @jayrosen_nyu NYT management, strategy, and culture is intent on being a part of the story for our children to point and laugh at the delusional lack of self-awareness. They’re leaving an incredible legacy.
@jayrosen_nyu Well, that may be what Holmes said. I'd need more evidence to be persuaded it's what she actually thinks.
@jayrosen_nyu it also means that Chozick is a hack who does more harm than good…
@jayrosen_nyu Enough about her, the narcissist of the month of the technology biz. Let’s make a side note for the fact that she did not get convicted for selling snake oil to vulnerable patients, causing suffering to many unfortunate enough to have their tests processed with with her fake technology. Nope, she got convicted about defrauding other narcissists who gave her nine billion reasons to keep the farce going (and she still is doing that). Kill people, that’s ok, but don’t screw with $$$!

@jayrosen_nyu

The “No True Theranos” argument

@jayrosen_nyu This exact type of story needs a tik-tock post-mortem. When exactly did it slip from “decent story idea” to “public relations?”

Was it the inherent from the pitch, was it somehow distorted in the reporting, was it the photo, the editing….

@dkiesow @jayrosen_nyu

Is it possible that it was earlier? That it never really slipped? I haven't paid much attention to the NYT in recent years, but it seems to me this isn't the first time they've done an inappropriately soft-focus profile of an upper-class white person. It seems very POSIWID to me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does

The purpose of a system is what it does - Wikipedia

@williampietri @jayrosen_nyu That would be included in “from the pitch” but yes.

@dkiesow @jayrosen_nyu

Sorry, I was unclear. I'm thinking earlier still. Let me try an analogy from my own field, tech.

Suppose we look at some terrible startup and ask when it slipped from good idea to bad. Founders generally understand the VC game, and so tend to pitch things that VCs like. Moreover, the industry tends to attract people with similar backgrounds and biases to VCs. So often terrible startups never slipped; they may have had a positive spin early on, but their in-the-world terribleness was overdetermined from the get-go.

So when I look for the POSIWID slip there, it's with who became the initial VCs, what their motivation was, and the ideology of the people funding them. The slip wasn't at the pitch, but years ago.

@williampietri @jayrosen_nyu No, I am agreeing with you. The system is working as intended.
@dkiesow @jayrosen_nyu Got it. Thanks!

@williampietri @dkiesow

Another factor, I think, is that the Times reporter goes into this assignment highly aware that she wants to produce neither a "puff piece," or a "hit piece." And she is also aware that those terms are the co-possession of the audience. One way to read the final text is as a series of signs saying, "see? no puff piece here," and "to be fair, because this isn't a hit piece, either..."

@dkiesow @jayrosen_nyu The pitch - which seems like it was basically, an exclusive with EH, a look at her life now and has she changed? Access, and what is being accessed (family, children, zoo visits) shapes everything.
@dkiesow @jayrosen_nyu That said, I think it's definitely possible to write an interesting/critical story under those conditions, but the reporter/editors were not up to it (maybe because being critical/skeptical is not what happens in most NYT stories built on access to famous attractive people).

@jayrosen_nyu

Unsurprising that Chozick misses this obvious point so badly. Ditto that the NYT purveys such terrible journalism.

@jayrosen_nyu

Con-people are commonly charming, and Chozick was clearly charmed.

@jayrosen_nyu The author of “Chasing Hillary,” is herself a con artist.
“It’s dizzying to realize that without even knowing it, you’ve ended up on the wrong side of history.”—Amy Chozick
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/29/amy-chozick-hillary-clinton-my-part-in-her-downfall
Hillary Clinton – my part in her downfall

New York Times reporter Amy Chozick has written a book that pairs her retelling of two presidential campaigns with reflections on whether the media, herself included, may have contributed to the breakdown of norms

The Guardian