20 years of pickup truck design progress in one photo

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#FuckCars

@stux Pickup trucks are great vehicles... for doing what they were actually designed to do (haul cargo, tools, etc for work, drive on rough terrain, etc).

Buying them as urban cruisers is beyond ridiculous. I mean, do these people hate having good visibility and love having difficulty parking?

@nafnlaus @stux Pickups weren't designed to do any of these things and they aren't good for any of them, except very narrow applications of hauling dirty bulk cargo on rough terrain for longer distances. A van is vastly superior for anything outside of farming use and a tractor beats a pickup truck for that, except for longer distances. They where a very niche vehicle before they became a way to avoid emissions standards.

@TonChryso @stux Um, yes, they were, and yes, they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_truck#History

Vans do not typically have the suspension needed for work in the countryside or at construction sites, only quite large vans are long enough for lumber, and you can't haul oversized loads in one or vertically load them

Vans are designed for moving goods on roads to and from stores, factories, etc.

Trust me, I used to own a pickup truck, used for *actual* countryside work. They're needed, & vans do NOT substitute

Pickup truck - Wikipedia

@TonChryso @stux Try donig this with a van (this was my truck, when I was developing a research garden). Don't forget to include driving said van across undeveloped terrain to the destination.
@TonChryso @stux Try this with a van (was hauling parts for my water system for my house)
@TonChryso @stux Try this with a van.
@nafnlaus @stux That was the narrow application I was referring to, where I could see a point, assuming it's far enough away that a tractor wouldn't be a better solution and you can't get an Unimog.

@TonChryso @stux A Unimog is expensive overkill for most people, poor maneuverability, less fuel efficient, lower speed, difficult to park, etc. A tractor doesn't have a bed and can't drive at speed on a highway for hauling goods between destinations.

Your "solutions" are nonsense. Which is why businesses buy primarily pickups for work in construction, industry, and in the countryside. Unimogs have a role and do that role well, but it's a *minority* role. Vans have a large, VERY different role.

@nafnlaus @stux Dude.., as I was saying, there are very niche uses for pickups that are pretty much identical to that of Unimogs and you can rent either for those applications, or buy one if you really need them a lot. It's just not something that applies for a lot of people. If you need to do farm work, a tractor with a trailer is a better solution, if you work on a construction site, get a van platform with a bed. If you really want a pickup, get a pickup.

@TonChryso @stux So people should just gladly choose to pay more, have worse maneuverability, worse fuel efficiency, lower speed, more difficulty parking, and get a truck driver's license, so they can drive a Unimog instead of a pickup in order to make Ton Chrysoprase happy?

Well, this conversation has reached its absurd conclusion.

@nafnlaus @stux Well, except for the drivers license, people are doing all of these things already with a pickup truck, so I'm not sure what your point is. I never said anybody should get a Unimog, quite the contrary. But since you seem to care about cargo space and getting through rough terrain, they seem to be the superior option for both.